New iPads & Pressure Ripples

rasputin1969

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When using the Pencil my iPad was showing cloudy pressure “blooming”, particularly when writing on the left hand side of the lower third of the tablet (when in portrait). By “blooming” I mean the sort of LCD under pressure “ripple” effect. This was most noticable on white backgrounds, eg Notability with white stationary.

It really started bothering me as it’s one of those things that once seen cannot be unseen, it looks awful. I checked my old iPad 10.5 and that didn’t have the issue at all, even when writing with more pressure.

Has anyone else seen this? I just wanted to put this out there and see whether I had a defective unit or not.
 

ManyThreads

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I don't have blooming but the screen on the new pro is very flimsy compared to my 10.5. I noticed this in the store on the display models and the one I bought is the same. It has noticeable flex, but I don't get any blooming with normal use.
 

Newtons Apple

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Sounds like Apple's obsession with thin might have included the glass and it might be a bit thinner. Guess you could go to the store and check other units.

How hard are you pressing when using the pencil.
 

Freakonomics101

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It’s due to the thinnest of the device. I guess you have to be more careful. It’s unfortunately a drawback with the new Pro.

EverythingApplePro confirmed it’s due to the thinness of the glass.
 

ManyThreads

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I sure do wish the device was a couple mm's thicker. Not only would that camera bump that makes the device literally impossible to use on a flat surface be gone (bit of an oversight given the intended usage of an ipad...), but we could have probably double the battery life and a screen that doesn't flex. Apple always gives usability and functionality a back seat to design and it's frustrating IMHO.
 

Rogifan

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I sure do wish the device was a couple mm's thicker. Not only would that camera bump that makes the device literally impossible to use on a flat surface be gone (bit of an oversight given the intended usage of an ipad...), but we could have probably double the battery life and a screen that doesn't flex. Apple always gives usability and functionality a back seat to design and it's frustrating IMHO.
This is not true. I have a 12.9” and it does not wobble when used flat on a table.
 
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bevsb2

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I don't see this on mine even when pressing with the pencil harder than I usually do.
 

Mabus51

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I have the 11" and it's massive camera bump makes it unusable on a flat surface. I wasn't aware the 12.9" was different but maybe it is.
The 12.9 has the camera bump too. So did last years models. It’s annoying and awful design for a tablet. Requires a case to smooth out. I assume Apples logic in this, is that customers are going to put a case on it anyway. So thinness isn’t an issue with the camera.
 

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This is not true. I have a 12.9” and it does not wobble when used flat on a table.
I have the 11" and it's massive camera bump makes it unusable on a flat surface. I wasn't aware the 12.9" was different but maybe it is.
That makes sense. Given the same sized camera bump, the smaller the tablet the greater the impact on it being able to sit flat on a table. If there were an iPad Mini with the same sized camera bump as the 11" and 12.9" 3rd gen Pros, it would wobble the most. A 15" iPP would not wobble at all.
 

rasputin1969

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I don't have blooming but the screen on the new pro is very flimsy compared to my 10.5. I noticed this in the store on the display models and the one I bought is the same. It has noticeable flex, but I don't get any blooming with normal use.
Thanks for the input. One thing I’d like to make clear is that you can’t notice it at all on 70% of the screen, it’s on the left hand side of the lower third.

From the feedback it looks like I may have had a defective unit. I returned it this afternoon via UPS and will purchase another from the Apple store and test it out instore.
 
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Relentless Power

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Apple manufacturing process for the LCD panel may have had a manufacturing change, where you’re seeing the ripple effect.

Side note:

Another example would be the Apple Watch. Starting with the Series 2 Apple Watch, members were noticing an ‘orange peel’ like texture that resembles bumps on the OLED display (Which was not present for the First Gen watch), ultimately to find out it was ‘normal’, as Apple changed the OLED manufacturing process. These bumps were only noticeable under certain lighting.
 

Rogifan

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I had pressure ripples on my previous iPad Pro. But they were only noticeable when I was cleaning the screen as I was applying more pressure to it. In everyday use I didn’t notice it and I don’t notice it with the new Pro either.
 

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I don’t see them at all. Then again, I never press very hard in the screen.
 

c14nhl

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I've got the 11” and although I don’t see full on ripples, when I write with the Pencil there is absolutely more give than my 9.7” Pro.
 

Rkick07

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I have the ripples but only when pressing hard with either pencil or cleaning the screen..I also notice how the screen feels very uneven when cleaning or swiping when using it. It does not feel solid. Feels cheap and wobbly, anyone else here felt the same?
 

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I don’t use a keyboard on my iPads, but I will get the regular keyboardless case for mine. It’s about the thickness of the camera bump, so with that on, it shouldn’t wobble at all.
 

Marshall73

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Didn’t even notice that until reading this thread so I did some experimenting. The new 12.9 doesn’t seem to be affected by pressure as much as my previous 10.5 or 12.9 pros. The previous 12.9, 10.5 and air 2 I have all distort with less pressure than I have to exert on the new pro.