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Not to my knowledge. :-( The previous gen Asus Zenfone was the smallest that I knew of, and they massacred the Zenfone with the latest generation (it's huge now). Sad.

edit - The SE3 (I own one) is still a solid device and you might could find a lightly used one at a steal.
Several carriers here in the US, such as Tracfone, have brand new SE3s for $189.
 
Well if they get rid of the home button the phone it should be smaller, my GF is still using the first generation SE, she doesn’t want anything bigger.
I guess android doesn’t have any small phones 🙄
Not that small at least. I love the OG SE though. Makes a great little back up device even today.
 
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I still hope for a small iPhone SE = iPhone mini format. Our kids all use iPhone minis and SE. They have small hands and this will not change for more years.
There has to be a small iPhone for small hands.
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Your whole family has small hands? Genetics?
 
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I’ve been waiting for this iPhone for a while! And I am a huge fan of Home button, if they replacing with Face ID,I’ll consider to wait for the iPhone 17
 
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I have entirely normal hands and prefer a smaller phone

Ideally one should be able to hold in one hand and reach the entire screen with thumb

Otherwise you might as well just use a tablet

Somehow millions of grown adults managed to make the iPhone a commercial and cultural behemoth for its first decade of existence despite the option (actually from 2007-2014’s iPhone 6 the only option) of what have now been re-framed as ‘small phones’.
I had Sony Ericsson’s T68i, K700, K800i as a young adult. Now they were ‘small’ phones. I don’t know how some people would have coped with those the way some go on about small hands etc.
 
I have an iPad 10, and it is fine for my purposes. I would like to see the iPad 11 get a decent spec bump….. M1 processor or equivalent, and 128GB storage in the base model. This would bring Apple Intelligence to the base iPad, which seems appropriate if Apple wants to make AI an essential part of their computing experience.
 
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Don't think so. Expecting to see only M4 MacBook Air this month. Maybe the announcement will come next week after CES.
 
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I have entirely normal hands and prefer a smaller phone

Ideally one should be able to hold in one hand and reach the entire screen with thumb

Otherwise you might as well just use a tablet
I have a 15 Pro Max and can reach everything with my thumb in one hand ;-)
 
They should launch all SE’s same time. Like in March - April between main lineup launches. I mean iPhone SE 4, Apple Watch SE 3.
 
I'm holding on to the last shreds of hope this won't have OLED.

Apple's blinking OLED/microLED screens cause me vision problems and make my eyes feel weirdly dry and focusing difficult, so I'm stuck on an SE2 and eventually Android if the entire lineup goes to OLED.
I don't know about blinking, but I do know that OLED screens wear out and cost about 2.5x as much to replace.

I would pay extra for a phone with an LCD screen vs. OLED.

It's infuriating that e.g. review sites keep calling OLED an upgrade vs. LCD without explaining these caveats.
 
I don't know about blinking, but I do know that OLED screens wear out and cost about 2.5x as much to replace.

I would pay extra for a phone with an LCD screen vs. OLED.

It's infuriating that e.g. review sites keep calling OLED an upgrade vs. LCD without explaining these caveats.
What do you mean by wear out? I’m genuinely curious.
 
What do you mean by wear out? I’m genuinely curious.
Every pixel (subpixel) in an OLED screen is made up of an organic compound that produces light when you run electrical current through it.

But the organic compounds degrade a little bit every single time they light up.

So that's why, if you display a bright, non-moving image on the screen for a long time, that image can become "burned in"... those pixels are degraded and thus dimmer. Permanently.

But that's just the most obvious manifestation of wear. The fact is that these screens wear out a little bit every single time they display anything.

As opposed to an LCD screen, where the liquid crystals act as shutters for a backlight, and the crystals can change their configuration indefinitely. An LCD cell phone screen after years of use will look exactly the same as it did when it was brand new.
 
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I have (had) a gold color iPhone SE 1st gen 64GB. For years. Fantastic device. The killer App on it is that it makes phone calls. Wild thought I know. It works fine, but isn’t getting updates anymore and has no room left for anything and the second battery is about done. $69 to fix or get a new iPhone. Humm. It’s in nice shape too so I decided to turn it into an iPod Touch instead. Yesterday I went to the Apple visitor center in Cupertino, ya the round disk building. It’s 20 miles from me. Pretty place. And I bought a brand new Starlight 256GB iPhone SE 3 direct from the mother ship. WOW ! What a difference. Bigger and brighter screen, more space, home button that is not a mechanical one (way better), and crazy fast bump up from an A9 CPU to a whopper A15. And it runs iOS 18 (factory installed) really well. Super fast. Still small to easy to carry. I know about the next version is coming but really it isn’t a next version. I don’t care. It will be totally different. The SE 3 is still a proper iPhone, just better in every way FOR ME. Best $579 I’ve spent since my still nice 1st gen SE. The other iPhones are nice but too much $$$$. And too big.

But I’m looking forward to reading about the new “SE 4” as I did about the SE 2. I don’t have any issues with OLED but honestly an iPhone doesn’t really need that. At least for me the LED/LCD style display that Apple has on all its devices except the iPad Pro and other iPhones is just fine. Further, taking photos on the iPhone is convenient but I don’t need it to be its primary purpose. All that fancy stuff just makes the iPhone excessively expensive and big for me and my new SE3 was expensive enough at and $631.83 after tax. Its primary purpose is making phone calls and its biggest feature is being portable and easy to use. WOW, I sound just like Steve Jobs. How the iPhone has changed since him. . . .I guess I’m a unique user, but I do have a few apps extra beyond what Apple bundles with a new iPhone so I guess I’m not weird.

No remorse here though.

Damn the A15 is fast compared to the A9.
 
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So that's why, if you display a bright, non-moving image on the screen for a long time, that image can become "burned in"... those pixels are degraded and thus dimmer. Permanently.
iPhone X had/has OLED. Did the owners ever complain about burn-in? I now have a 15 Pro and the always-on display sort of slightly worries me, but I don’t know whether it should. Samsung’s AOD had the clock moving around to avoid burn-in.
 
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iPhone X had/has OLED. Did the owners ever complain about burn-in? I now have a 15 Pro and the always-on display sort of slightly worries me, but I don’t know whether it should. Samsung’s AOD had the clock moving around to avoid burn-in.
Same here. I also leave my AW9 always on. Time will tell I suppose, and I've decided it isn't worth the worry.
 
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iPhone X had/has OLED. Did the owners ever complain about burn-in? I now have a 15 Pro and the always-on display sort of slightly worries me, but I don’t know whether it should. Samsung’s AOD had the clock moving around to avoid burn-in.
Some did, some didn't.

If you google "iPhone [model whatever] oled burn in" you will find no shortage of people complaining that their screens burned in. A lot of those cases are actually a different OLED problem called image retention, which is temporary, but a lot of them are legit burn-in.

For OLED, degradation increases exponentially with brightness. From what I've seen, the content displayed on these always-on displays is very dim, so I think the risk of burn-in from that is very small.

Personally, I'm worried about navigation. I use my phone for in-car navigation, sometimes for hours at a time, sometimes with high brightness because it's sunny outside. I can see that burning in very quickly.
 
Personally, I'm worried about navigation. I use my phone for in-car navigation, sometimes for hours at a time, sometimes with high brightness because it's sunny outside. I can see that burning in very quickly.
Oooh. It would be interesting if the nanotexture becomes non-optional in future Macbooks for exactly this reason – to avoid burn-in with OLED screens by lowering the necessary brightness.
 
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