Most people who wanted a small phone simply wanted a cheap phone that’s good enough.
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New iPhone SE With Apple-Designed 5G Modem Said to Launch in 2025
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Most people who wanted a small phone simply wanted a cheap phone that’s good enough.
Absolutely, that was the biggest miss in the history of the iPhone. While it was a fun and colorful phone, the cases were truly ridiculous (grated cheese holes that obscure the Apple logo feels like a Design 101 mistake) and the price of $99 to $199 cheapened the iPhone and made it seem like a flimsy, lightweight piece of plastic — that's in direct opposition to the sturdy, heavy, powerful feel of the iPhone Pro, which I greatly prefer.
That's what Androids are for. iPhone competes in the high-end phone market. OPPO and Huawei compete in the low-end market.
The iPod use to be Apple's most valuable price point. Even when they had high capacity storage iPods selling for 499, they had cheaper models like the shuffle. Didn't affect their margins negatively.
Newton and Pippin, what memories of the past are you bringing back @Ion-X. I used to have a Newton back in the day and it must lie somewhere in the attic.
I'll be the broken record to say I wish still wish it would come with an LCD display. The updated Xr would have been fantastic.
Damn I was really hoping they’d use the mini chassis for a new SE. Looks like small iPhones are going for good. Along possibly with my business!
Some people just like to denigrate Kuo. The 2025 prediction in this article wasn’t even made by Kuo.
This would make sense as in 2025 the iPhone 14 will be the 3rd tier device and will be replaced by a 4th gen SE with an new chip (A17?) and modem, and maybe switching it to a single lens camera system. Would fit with the development of the 1st and 2nd gen SE, with the outlier being the 3rd gen SE, which should've been an XR/11 with an A15.
This is a good point, but Apple likes to gimp their SE lineup somehow so that people spend more to get a better phone. Why not "gimp" the phone by making it a smaller phone for that fanbase?
🤣 Pricing an iPhone at $429 (iPhone SE) is not targeting the high-end market. And when you can get that iPhone model and others for free many service providers, that undermines your thesis that the iPhone competes (only) in the high-end market.
What high-end car dealer gives cars away for free?
Also, Oppo and Huawei compete in all segments, from low-end to high-end, as they have handsets that are priced between $200 and $1,000 and more (Oppo Find X5 Pro and Huawei P60 Pro are priced near $1,000; Huawei Mate X3 is priced close to $2,000)
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Apple doesn't want to gimp the phone to the point where it's only attractive to a couple million people globally. It's same reason why Apple didn't use iPhone 5C as the basis for the first SE. Apple still wants revenue and profit for SE, just with lower expectations.
The iPhone mini is a failure from a sales and adoption standpoint. Why would Apple knowingly revive a failed product? In addition, the mini doesn't offer economies of scale because the mini never sold well in the first place.
works for me am going to keep my iPhone SE for a vary long time if it not broken don't fix
The chips that Apple has transitioned to their own design have been very solid so far. They seem to have better quality control than the software devision.
A great thing about the first generation iPhone SE is that it used both the latest camera and the latest CPU (A9) that was on the then current latest flagship (iPhone 6S).
The second and third generation iPhone SE both used an old camera that was on the iPhone 8. That’s because Tim Cook is a greedy cheapskate who cuts corners to maximize profits.
But at least the second and third generation iPhone SE used the latest CPU (A13 and A15) they were on the then current latest flagship (iPhone 11 and iPhone 13). That might not happen with the next iPhone SE because Tim Crook now doesn’t even give the latest CPU (the A16) to the latest non-Pro iPhone models and instead gives them the previous generation iPhone’s CPU.
the A15 is still a grate chip set for the ones that don't want to spend 1,000 plus on a new iPhone the iPhone SE 3 is a grate pick even no the A15 may be last year chip set its still a grate chip set to used in 2023 and going foreword I have a A15 iPhone SE and A15 apple TV no need to spend $1,000 for the newest stuff
But iPhones aren’t rare or precious. They’re about as common as muck. They just got away with huge price hikes because of the perennial underdog attitude.
No idea, I haven't even considered it as I'm still happy with my 13 mini for now.
I'd just have to see what the market has available at the time of wanting to upgrade I guess. Any recommendations?
I don't even use 5G right now because it's such an insane battery drain. I hope Apple cracks the code of efficiency for 5G.