So is there no place you can presently get a 16GB iPhone? Even ATT seems sold out around here. Apple and ATT, online and at stores, no 8s and no 16s. I could use more space for music, but I don't want design changes -- 3G and real GPS don't matter to me. I don't really want a refurb, and figure worse case I pay full price for an EDGE 16GB, best case they retain the EDGE 16GB and press protect me for the return period, so I get the $100 off or whatever, anyway.