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mpw said:
...some people in this forum are saying 'my music collections up to 20,30,40GB I can't wait for the 60GB to be released'.
Am I missing the point or something? I thought a big part of the iPod's sucess was it's partnership with iTunes & iTMS. I organise all my music in iTunes and then plan, once my iPod mini in (blue or silver please Santa), arrives to transfer 4 GB at a time the idea of wandering around with 15,000 songs to organise on a tiny screen seems a chore.
How do present owners use theirs? Are that many of you transporting your pitures files etc. aswell?
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You'll understand, once you have your mini...you can dial from Alien Ant Farm to ZZ Top with your thumb in a matter of seconds...or stop anywhere inbetween...the scrolling speed actually accelerates as you whiz it around. Far from a chore, managing my 6000 songs is such a simple task on the iPod I sometimes get almost frustrated with iTunes which, fantastic as it is, lags in some respects.

Want to lay any bets that a few weeks after you have your mini you'll be wanting a big iPod so you can take all your music with you? There's something very powerful abut setting all of your songs on shuffle, not just the subset you happen to have with you today...

When I bought my iPod a year ago I had 2000 songs. Now I have 6000, many of them songs I would otherwise never have listened to again (collecting dust in the CD cabinet) or otherwise bought (thanks iTunes Music Store). You'll understand, once you have an iPod. 🙂
 
i need to buy a laptop (cram & jam deal) thursday. according to the rules, the iPod and iBook (or powerbook) must be on the same invoice...

are you guys saying that the iPod will be announced officially monday (tomorrow - 18 july) or monday (next week - 26 july)?

tomorrow... tomorroooowwww... pleeeaaasseee tomorrroowww!!!
 
Thanks for the feed-back BUT...

blybug said:
You'll understand, once you have your mini...you can dial from Alien Ant Farm to ZZ Top with your thumb in a matter of seconds...or stop anywhere inbetween...[\QUOTE]

...this won't happen for two very good reasons.
1) Alien Ant Farm
2) ZZ Top
Neither will EVER be on any iPod I ever own. 🙂
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I see many descriptions saying that the new iPods are reduced in price. I don't know about you, but I expect the low end model to always be replaced by the previous more expensive model. Its just a speed bump, it will be more clear when they release the 60gig at the regular old price of $499. If Apple would have included the dock and remote for $100 less then it would be a price cut. Don't get me wrong, the new models are very nice, but its just a speed bump, not a real price reduction. It just does not look that way because there is not a 3rd $499 model being sold just yet. Pretty sneaky marketing move.
 
mpw said:
...some people in this forum are saying 'my music collections up to 20,30,40GB I can't wait for the 60GB to be released'.
Am I missing the point or something? I thought a big part of the iPod's sucess was it's partnership with iTunes & iTMS. I organise all my music in iTunes and then plan, once my iPod mini in (blue or silver please Santa), arrives to transfer 4 GB at a time the idea of wandering around with 15,000 songs to organise on a tiny screen seems a chore.
How do present owners use theirs? Are that many of you transporting your pitures files etc. aswell?
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Well, I have over 20 GB of music on my laptop, and it was so nice (when I had LESS than 20GB) to just plug in the iPod once a week or so and let the autosync happen effortlessly. Now that I have more than 20 GB, I have to turn off the autosync (because I always get a message saying there isn't enough space to copy etc, etc) and manually mount and dismount, remove some music to add different music, and so what happens is that I never have any idea if what I have on iTunes is what I have on the iPod. That's why I would never get a mini, and I'm looking at the new 40GB. I was going to get the 60GB, but Apple's not saying anything about them - yet.
 
Let's Not Forget The hPod

Apple is probably going to continue to make a 15Gb iPod maybe even a 10Gb one. But they are not going to sell it, that's Hewlett Packard's job now. I can see the hPod being one step behind Apple's current model. Sort of like how the iBook G4 is one step behind the PowerBook G4. The new pricing found in the NewsWeek articles may give us a clue into the pricing of the hPod. I wonder how it will play in the same ballpark as the mini and the wideback, could this mean that the mini will be seeing a price reduction soon. Maybe we will see; iPod Mini -> $199, hPod -> $249, and iPod -> $299. Well, a man can dream can't he. 😉
 
It is a little of an underwhelming update but I had my heart set on getting this one - the clickwheel will be nice, the upgrade in size will be great for the price, and the battery life is a fantastic step in the right direction. I would have liked an added AM/FM radio but hey.......

I was a little shocked at the grey scrollwheel but I'm sure it will look great in person. I think the grey will be nice and subtle and match in perfectly with the styling on the headphones. I really do hope the buttons on the clickwheel are illuminated like the moc (although I suppose it is really unnecessary as they look like they might be embossed).

And I am with everyone who thinks that Apple should be able to extend the battery life on older gen ipods with a software update. Seems like something Apple would do if it were possible.

Can't wait until the release here (Tuesday in Australia 🙂)
 
a millimeter thinner? thats cool and all, but the 40GB 3rd Gen was already thicker than the 20 and 15, and quite noticably at that. it was a few millimeters thicker. i'm guessing the 60GB will be that thick as well, but does that mean they found a way to make them all the same size and smaller, or the 40GB is just a millimeter thinner?
 
.Andy said:
I really do hope the buttons on the clickwheel are illuminated like the moc (although I suppose it is really unnecessary as they look like they might be embossed).
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Just a little thing with no practical purpose or reason other I like the idea.

IF the buttons are back-lit it would've been cool if instead of 'menu' there was a glowing apple logo.
 
Mac Boy-Canada said:
Oh...Don't make me mad now. First of all, most Canadians are quite gifted at math. Almost half have completed Math 10 in Grade 9. Don't take a small sample, and blow it out of proportion.

And second of all, it's "eh", not "ay". Get it right the first time!!
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i second that.... go leafs 🙂hhaha
 
mpw said:
...this won't happen for two very good reasons.
1) Alien Ant Farm
2) ZZ Top
Neither will EVER be on any iPod I ever own. 🙂
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It's funny you would say that, because it's exactly the freedom that 40GB gives you that allows you to have virtually any and all kinds of music all the time. Guilty pleasures from a one-hit wonder (thanks again iTMS...99 cents to Alien Ant Farm!). Or a bunch of songs that seemed cool 15 years ago on a CD you'd never again listen to (ZZ Top Eliminator) but when they pop up one at a time in a shuffle they are tolerable and indeed enjoyable again! But, to each his own 40gigs.

You never know what will end up on your iPod. Not that you probably care too much but here's what's on mine. Like I said, 2/3 of this I either didn't own or hadn't cared to rip from CD...until I had an iPod. Now how could I pick 4GB a day out of that to take along?? I want it all!!
 
MacEyeDoc said:
Well, I have over 20 GB of music on my laptop, and it was so nice (when I had LESS than 20GB) to just plug in the iPod once a week or so and let the autosync happen effortlessly. Now that I have more than 20 GB, I have to turn off the autosync (because I always get a message saying there isn't enough space to copy etc, etc) and manually mount and dismount, remove some music to add different music
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Why not make a smart playlist that selects a subset of your library at random an limits itself to 20GB? Or any other criteria based on your ratings, last time played, new additions, etc. Call it "iPod Playlist" and set the iPod to autosync only that playlist. Then you can go back to the effortless autosync. Would be a little easier than what you are doing now...at least until you get the 60gigger!! 🙂
 
Is the dock and remote included with the 20GB 4G model?

Anybody know if they're going to include the dock and remote with the 20gb 4th gen model? There was no mention of that in the article. I would sure like that to be true. I don't care about the storage so much because anything above the 5gb level is more than enough for me. But I would like to have the remote for sure.
 
Clive At Five said:
Unfortunately, consumers are idiots. If they read that Sony has an MP3 player with a ton of features and find out that the iPod has almost nothing new, bad things will happen. The simplistic stratedgy that Apple likes to use is hard to justify in a market as volitile and ferocious as this one.

THOUGH. I've heard some word circulating about voice-activation on the new iPods. "play mr roboto" and voila... I don't know if this is true or not and it would mean there's a built-in microphone... which seems... iffy.

Regardless, tomorrow, I will own my very first iPod.

-Clive at Five
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can you please tell me what features are on the Sony MP3 player?
 
picklescott, you are lazy.

i will answer you anyhow
no one knows the answer to the first question

and they will most likely be announced tomorrow, since the newsweek will go on stands tomorrow, and how the hell could apple let this be on the front page of msnbc for more than a day without an official announcement?
 
Clickwheel Question.

I've never played with an ipodmini so I have no clue how it feels. I loved the 3rd Gen ipod's wheel but I'm unsure on how the new click wheel works. Could somebody elaborate on it for me. Thanks in advance.
 
MOSOXFAN said:
Other than a Apple store, where can one pick up a 4G tomorrow? Does it have to be bought through an e-tailer site or the Apple web store to get one right away?
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I doubt you will be able to pick up a 4G tomorrow. Can any one remember the last time Apple introduced a new product and had it available the same day?
 
ArticulatedArm said:
Or maybe it was just wishful thinking on his part and/or "50% increase" is a kind of dumb way of saying "twice the current amount"
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Actually, twice the current amount would be a 100% increase 😉
 
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