this was over at Slashdot... The plug-in, called ml_iPod, allows iPod users to bypass iTunes and manage music collections in Winamp instead. Fisher and other developers programmed a slew of features, including the ability to synch multiple iPods with Winamp, create smart playlists and -- the most useful option -- the ability to copy songs from an iPod onto a hard drive. story is on Wired's website.. http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,67593,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 personally i think its good, people say Microsoft has a monopoly on stuff, but Apple not letting their most popular product be used by anything but one of their other products definetly throws flags up for me. I know they have to try to keep the music execs happy, but you know thats only part of it.