New iPod Touch Coming Later This Year as a Minor Update?

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  1. MacRumors, Jun 24, 2011
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    MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Earlier this month, new references to unreleased iPad models were discovered in iOS 5, but the lack of any mention of unreleased iPod touch models led to some concern that Apple might not be planning an update to the popular line this year.


    But a bit more digging by iFans has in fact turned up a reference to an unreleased iPod touch model designated as "iPod4,2". The current iPod touch is designated "iPod4,1".
    What's more interesting is the use of the "iPod4,2" reference instead of "iPod5,1", suggesting that Apple considers the new model to only be a minor update to the existing iPod touch. Apple briefly used this naming convention once before in its iPod touch line when an "iPod2,2" reference showed up in iOS 3.0 betas in early 2009. No such product was ever released, however, as all of the third-generation iPod touch models released later that year carried the "iPod3,1" designation, which had also been found in the iOS 3.0 code. Consequently, it is possible that Apple could still have an "iPod5,1" in the works as the next update, but no signs of such of a device have yet been found in iOS 5.

    To find an instance of Apple actually shipping an "X,2" product as a minor update, we can turn to the iPhone where Apple dubbed the iPhone 3G as "iPhone1,2", considering it a minor update update over the original iPhone despite a redesigned case and new 3G compatibility, among other changes. The iPhone 3GS released the following year interestingly warranted a major new "iPhone2,1" designation despite a nearly identical external appearance to the iPhone 3G, although the device's internals were significantly upgraded.

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  2. Menopause macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2011
    Cannot think of anything more they can do to that thing ! Would be interesting to see if there's any change in form factor.
  3. Meandmunch macrumors 6502

    Jan 3, 2002
    When is a chip like the A5 simply to much power for an iPod. NEVER! Ha, ha!

    My iPod wish list: THINNER! Kidding, that thin is so thin already it's silly.

    But seriously between my iPad and iPhone, my iPod is kind of falling off my radar. I wonder if this is a common thing happening across the Apple customer base.
  4. ftaok macrumors 601


    Jan 23, 2002
    East Coast
    Would the dual-core A5 and better camera specs be considered a "minor" update? Hmm. Hope so.
  5. basesloaded190 macrumors 68030


    Oct 16, 2007
    I have to imagine between the Iphone and Ipad, the Ipod will soon fall off the map and no longer be needed. This won't happen any time soon, but it's possible in the future
  6. ESPN macrumors regular

    Jun 12, 2011
    A5 Processor
    RAM upgrade
    5MP camera

    I think this would be a minor update,

    a major one would be

    A5 processor
    5MP camera with LED flash
    RAM upgrade
    IPS display
    1MP front facing camera
  7. RoboCop001 macrumors 65816

    Oct 4, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    I think they bump up the major revision number if the processor gets upgraded?

    So 4,2 would mean it's still an A4?

    But it wouldn't make sense upgrading everything else to an A5 and not the iPod touch.
  8. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium


    Jan 28, 2009
    Quebec, Canada
    Yet a Mac that gains a Sandy Bridge processor and useless interconnect is a "major" upgrade. :rolleyes:

    Face it guys, the A5 processor on its own is a major upgrade, especially for a device like the iPod Touch which is quickly becoming a big player in portable gaming.

    It means nothing. The original iPhone was 1,0 and the iPhone 3G was 1,1. Did anyone think of the iPhone 3G as a "minor" upgrade ? The 3GS had 2,1, yet everyone here berates it as a "minor" upgrade (even though it was a huge upgrade from the 3G). These numbers mean squat.
  9. baleensavage macrumors 6502a

    Aug 2, 2005
    On an island in Maine
    As long as they update the camera, then I'm game. I'd prefer to see a new form factor like the iPhone and a better processor, but if they don't put a decent rear-facing camera in there, the update will be a waste.
  10. ESPN macrumors regular

    Jun 12, 2011
    Apple has said they want to enter in to the gaming department, to compete with nintendo and sony, they surely would have to put in the A5 chip. And I really doubt they would give ipad the A5 but not the ipod touch. The touch still outnumbers the iPad in a 5-3 ratio. No sense in Apple not to upgrade a popular device.
  11. d0minick macrumors 6502

    Mar 8, 2011
    Just cannot find a reason for a itouch if you have an iphone. UNLESS you have like a huge amount of music you need to store.
  12. puffnstuff macrumors 65816

    Jan 2, 2008
    Bigger screen
    Better camera

    That's all I can think of
  13. randomrazr macrumors 65816

    Jan 1, 2011
    well of course its only be a minor update

    apple already redesigned it once.

    you cant "always" re desgin a device every year. everytime you do that the entire manufacturing process has to change which is also costly.
  14. codyc815 macrumors member

    Jan 7, 2009
    This could be why the back to school promo was a giftcard instead of an iPod, if there's no major update they don't really have a reason to get rid of their supply.
  15. Diode macrumors 68020


    Apr 15, 2004
    Washington DC
    Maybe the radically resigned case rumors floating around could be for the iPods - to make them look more like thinner iPhones 4's? Just a thought.....
  16. RawBert macrumors 68000


    Jan 19, 2010
    North Hollywood, CA
    Bring on the white iPod with a decent camera. :) I have an iPod T2 currently and want to upgrade.
  17. Thunderhawks Suspended

    Feb 17, 2009
    Yes, iphone should have been billed as the ipod killer:)
    Not using mine ever since the iphone came out.

    Some limitations as you can't get all of your library on, but not often. So, it' s tolerable.

    Just need more GB in the iphones 128 would be great.

    On the other hand icloud will make ipods even more unnecessary IMO.
  18. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium


    Jan 28, 2009
    Quebec, Canada
    Wait, when did the iPhone replace a wireless keyboard made by Logitech ? :confused:

    No, the BTS promo was a gift card because the Mac App Store doesn't seem to be doing as well as Apple hoped. It's also why Lion is going to be a MAS exclusive.

    If the MAS was doing well, they would have flaunted the numbers during the WWDC keynote, like they did with the iOS App Store.

    That's my take on it at least.
  19. regandarcy macrumors member

    Apr 10, 2010
    I concur. BETTER CAMERA number one. A5 chip would also be sweet. Other than that? Its hard to think of anything. Thinner? Ha! Any thinner, and it'd cut your hand.

    Speaking of cutting...I know some mentioned that the iphone and ipad must be cutting into the ipod touches usefulness....but I am one of those who dont have or want an iphone. I travel ALOT, and just dont want to be locked into no contract. Lol.

    So the ipod touch is still relevant to me. Was hoping the Student special still included a free ipod since i am also planning on buying a new Mac...but thats not the case anymore. You get a $100 gift card now.

    I will wait tho until the ipod touch is updated before i nab one. The camera on the current one is just decent. Could and should be ALOT better. If sales of the touch are dropping off due to the iphone and ipad,
    there is NO reason in my mind why they shouldn't plop in a better quality camera.

    Guess we will find out soon? Heh heh heh :p
  20. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

    Lesser Evets

    Jan 7, 2006


    You... you can't be serious. The camera on the back is pathetic. The processor can be A5'd. More memory? That's just the most blatant and obvious changes, which are minor in terms of engineering, aside from the processor I mean. But, these are the logical and blatant improvements possible.

    Apple doesn't need to change the form. It's fine as is. Just give us more video/picture ability and I'll be happy; I plan to buy one in September if the camera is better.
  21. ESPN macrumors regular

    Jun 12, 2011
    Most people do not have an iphone. An ipod touch to complement their regular phone is why most people have an ipod touch. An ipod touch gives the feeling of an iPhone without the bloated data/talk contract for two years.

    The ipod touch is not going down the drain. When the baseless hype surrounding iPad subsides and people finally realizes that it is an overpriced mobile operating system, laptops will prevail and so will ipod touches.
  22. cvaldes, Jun 24, 2011
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2011

    cvaldes macrumors 68040

    Dec 14, 2006
    somewhere else
    You don't get it.

    The iPod touch and iPhone have different demographics. The iPod touch is mostly used by 13-24 year old consumers. The iPhone is mostly used by the 25-55 year old age group. Kids can't afford to shell out for cellular plans; you really need a job.

    Steve himself said that the iPod touch was training wheels for the iPhone.

    The iPod touch is not going away; it is now the top selling iPod. Apple sells two iPod touches for every three iPhones. Apple is building the next generation of iPhone owners by selling iPod touches.
  23. firewood macrumors 604

    Jul 29, 2003
    Silicon Valley
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

    Changes to the CPU arch, max RAM, max pixels, max sample rate or max CPU clock rate have all been major numbers, as these are visible to disconnected apps. Changes to the networks available have been minor number changes.
  24. diamond.g macrumors 603


    Mar 20, 2007
    Um the iPhone was called iPhone1,1. The 3G was iPhone1,2. Supposedly the only major change was the case design. Which is what people have began to associate with "major changes".
  25. sittnick macrumors member

    Jan 9, 2008
    The relevance of the iPod Touch

    I purchased the iPod Touch 2G when it came out because it DIDN'T have a phone. At the time, I didn't even own a cell phone. I now have a "dumb" cell phone because I have a 90 mile commute, but I use it maybe 1% of the time and use prepay.

    I love the fact that I can browse my contact list on my iPod Touch while talking on the Cell. I couldn't do that if an iPhone unless I used a headset/earpiece.

    Besides people like me who don't really want my portable browser/video player/MP3 player as a phone, there are still plenty of folks who don't want a phone contract, or are on incompatible carriers. $200 or so gets you into the game... that's doable.

    The iPod Touch also provides a nice intro to iOS that the other iPods dont. If I were to get a Smartphone with a contract, it would be an iPhone. I might not have been able to say that if I hadn't had an ioverall positive experience with the Touch.

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