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Free = pandora
Paid = pandora (minus ads) + ITunes Match

If that is the case, I am confused as to why Apple has been spending all of this time negotiating with record labels. If they are going to go with the Pandora-style streaming (with or without Ads), they could simply pay the rate that Congress has approved in the U.S. that everyone else uses?

It seems to me that the negotiation likely centered around on-demand listening (a.k.a. Spotify).

IMO the lack of on-demand makes zero sense. They would be behind Spotify and Google from the get-go?
 
Why cant you ever give us what we want. Always something thats not good enough. If true, im really disappointed that when apple finally goes for the streaming option, there will be no search function but only iradio. A spotify-model with iradio in it would be the best solution. Who buys mp3s anyway?

I buy vinyl and pay for streaming mp3s. I DONT want to own mp3s, taking up space and money.
 
We want FREE, not ads! We get ads on radio all the time!

I don't care about free, just free of ads.

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dude, read the first sentence of the second paragraph... "plans to offer it for free"

Read what he wrote. He wants no ads, and will pay for that.

I won't be shocked if there is a line missing and it's actually 'offer it for free to all iTunes Match users'
 
I think you can safely assume that buying the song you are listening to will be no more than one tap away.

It doesn't matter if you're a Match subscriber or not, because you can always re-download purchased songs.

But what I mean is that, if you're a match subscriber, that song download would be at no additional cost due to that membership. Not a match subscriber, and you have to pay for it through iTunes.

Just trying to think of a model that hasn't been discussed (that I've seen).
 
So who exactly will pay for the music to keep it free for you? Nothing is ever free.

Apple. Their main source of revenue is their hardware. They can easily afford to shell out a few dollars per user to pay record companies. In turn, more people will think Apple products are awesome and buy them, thus Apple ends up making money by giving something for "free" with the purchase of their hardware.

It's just like how iLife and other OS X apps can come with every Mac for "free".

It's just like how Tesla's supercharging stations are free to use for Tesla owners.

It's a perk of owning the expensive hardware.
 
Why cant you ever give us what we want. Always something thats not good enough. If true, im really disappointed that when apple finally goes for the streaming option, there will be no search function but only iradio. A spotify-model with iradio in it would be the best solution. Who buys mp3s anyway?

I buy vinyl and pay for streaming mp3s. I DONT want to own mp3s, taking up space and money.

Maybe what we want doesn`t give enough profit. Anyway...

Current free version of Spotify on iOS has ads, and plays random songs. Same as Pandora. Although, I like the selection on Spotify much more than Pandora. So if what is said in this article is true, it will be exactly the same for `iRadio`. Music selection remains to be seen but something integrated have a better chance of usage, I think.
 
We want FREE, not ads! We get ads on radio all the time!

Got to love the tech community. Don't you know? Ads and free are only good when Google does it. :rolleyes:

Do you seriously think that Apple will plaster ads *everywhere*? I don't care about "on-demand" music services; I have iTunes for that. I love being able to pull up my Last.fm station at work and listen, though. You know Apple will use the Genius technology to make it similar, too.

But wait! Where are all the Google haters? Oh, that's right, when Apple uses your information to offer free services, only then is it ok. :p

Google uses *personalised ads*, your real name, location information, and everything else under the sun to do that; Apple does not. It's the reason why I quit using Google years ago.
 
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Has everyone forgot that next week is a developer conference?

Apple hold a music event EVERY September or Ocrober, where they announce, with other things, a new version of iTunes.

If they are going to announce a music streaming service, it will be then.

Of course, because Apple has never been known to introduce hardware and software when it was actually ready to announce in favor of sticking to a schedule from prior years. Are you kidding?
 
No control over the music, no playlists, AND ads? WHAT A DEAL I'M ALL OVER IT.

This is freaking incredible.

Spotify Free (available in lots of countries) gives you 100% control over the music for the ads and social network integration to boot. This is just heartbreaking to hear unfold from the company that once revolutionized the digital music industry. :(

Yeah, but Spotify's free edition only works on a computer. $10/month entry fee for a vast majority of people since most people don't listen to music primarily on a computer. But millions and millions of people listen to the radio every day. It's passive, which is great. Most people don't want to actively specify what songs they're going to listen to. And iRadio (if the speculation is true) would be like radio but with the ability to skip as many songs as you'd like (again, if the speculation is true). That's pretty revolutionary, or at least a major improvement over scanning the FM dial because a song you don't like came on your current station. And with Apple focusing on getting Siri integration into cars, this could be a major hit and the best way to listen to the radio on the go. If you want a Spotify-like experience, there's always Spotify itself, or the new (cheaper, for now) Google offering.

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This statement confuses me:

"iRadio users will be able to purchase the song they are listening to through iTunes. Syncing with iTunes Match ($24.99 per year) will allow users to own those songs forever, keep them in Apple's cloud-based storage service and access them on any iOS device."

If I purchase a song I hear, through iTunes, doesn't that already give me a download (or the ability to download it, from the cloud) to my device? And listen to it on any device? And own it forever? What does paying for iTunes Match have to do with it?

Yeah, that statement made me discredit this whole story from "AdAge." They don't even know how buying music from Apple works these days.
 
"However, the service will not allow users to search for and play a specific song on-demand, like with Spotify."

What the hell. Apple's just playing catchup to Pandora now, a service that was okay for a time, but is being abandoned in favor of what consumers really want: music on demand wherever they are and on whatever they're holding/looking at/standing near.

Ball. Dropped.
 
"However, the service will not allow users to search for and play a specific song on-demand, like with Spotify."

What the hell. Apple's just playing catchup to Pandora now, a service that was okay for a time, but is being abandoned in favor of what consumers really want: music on demand wherever they are and on whatever they're holding/looking at/standing near.

Ball. Dropped.

Totally, right?

I mean nobody has heard anything about it yet but the ball is totally dropped. :rolleyes:
 
I'm just curious (not trying to start anything - sincerely) but do you think other members on this forum share your enthusiasm when it's Apple but yet have the exact opposite reaction when it comes to google's services.

I see a lot of forum members in other threads "condemning" google for some of their ad-based services even though they provide those services for free.....

I can't speak for other forum members, but my comment relates to the fact that GOOGLE Music, Spotify and Rhapsody are all paid subscription services, whereas APPLE's rumored iRadio service is said to be free, albeit with (no doubt) annoying ads. That, for my particular purpose, suits me better. Now, instead of wandering the iTunes Store, I can just listen to the radio, while doing other things, and if I hear a song I like, that I want to own, it's a one click purchase. Also, Google Play's Music App is ANDROID only. This has nothing to do with others 'condemning' Google's free services.

Even though I'm not a 'blind' APPLE follower, I make no apologies for mostly liking APPLE's products and services.

.....That being said - as another poster wrote earlier. I do find it interesting (though not surprising) that Apple is going the free but ad-based route vs google which is going the paid and commercial free route.

I'm sure they thought about it long and hard, and did their calculations, and came to the conclusion that this is their best avenue. But let's wait and see what happens; after all, at this stage, they're still only rumors.
 
Totally, right?

I mean nobody has heard anything about it yet but the ball is totally dropped. :rolleyes:

Based upon what I've heard so far, yeah.

I haven't listened to 'music' radio since 1997. No control over what I hear. Useless contests. Stupid jackass DJ's. And ads. But free.

Is there something compelling about iRadio that I am unaware of? Maybe.

We'll see, and maybe because my expectations are low or non existent I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Tom
 
Totally, right?

I mean nobody has heard anything about it yet but the ball is totally dropped. :rolleyes:

It's an rumor forum. Hyperbole based on conjecture is what we come here for. Well, that and terrible grammar.
 
Not at all seeing how this is better than Spotify or All-Access, or even Pandora for that matter, with all the radio stations created and hours spent with it learning my music tastes. Really sounding like a me-too product to me. Needs to be more compelling IMHO.
 
I really hope not! If theres not a paid ad-free option I wouldnt even consider it. I do not suffer advertising, and go out of my way to avoid it. The more its pushed on me, the more I push back. Id rather go without something great, than have someone push something down my throat. I know I am not alone in this.

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As an FYI - the app on iOS is coming "soon" - next few weeks based on reports. We'll see...

Not where I live. Its coming.. maybe.. one day.
 
Based upon what I've heard so far, yeah.

I haven't listened to 'music' radio since 1997. No control over what I hear. Useless contests. Stupid jackass DJ's. And ads. But free.

Is there something compelling about iRadio that I am unaware of? Maybe.

We'll see, and maybe because my expectations are low or non existent I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Tom

Tom, you are not alone. Those are the same reasons just about everyone I know abandoned radio (although a little later than you - good effort!).
 
Having an online radio is lame.

Being able to search for and play any song in the world, add it to playlists, download it onto my phone, have optional free music apps through an API to extend the service AND radio function = Spotify.

Dead before it hits the ground.
 
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