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I oftentimes find things that aren't trying to be anything other than creations of man and the industrial stylings which can come out of that (such as what is seen on ThinkPads) more beautiful than things trying to emulate nature.

That takes me back :) It used to be my defense for Modernism against Representational artists at art college, "people don't like flowers because they look like flowers..."
 
The only Windows hardware I thought was interesting at the time was Sony's Vaio series; they made some really interesting, ambitious products. I believe Steve Jobs himself was a fan also.

I can see why Jobs would've been a fan. I have an ultraportable Vaio C1 Picturebook and I used it heavily during the mid 2000s. Everyone who saw it, immediately fell in love with it. For me, it was the closest that you could find at the time to Apple's products (in terms of engineering) within the WinTel world.

Sony Vaio's ultraportable lines were most interesting to me. Not ergonomic at all, but it looks unlike any other device:

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Front/back cameras, backlit keyboard, fingerprint scanner, cool docking station... A shame it was underpowered :p

Ah, I remember these very well. An undergrad classmate had one: they used it for a while to take notes and write papers! I was impressed by how much functionality had been crammed into such a small space. Looking at it now reminds me of the scene from 1941 with the cumbersome radio. :D
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :D
I don't know if there is any truer statement about art :D
That takes me back :) It used to be my defense for Modernism against Representational artists at art college, "people don't like flowers because they look like flowers..."
Nice 😆

There is definitely something to be said for Representational art, as a lot of it is very beautiful and I quite enjoy it, but Modernist art sort of just "clicks" for me. :)
 
The ancestor of the netbooks in terms of size in weight but not in terms of price. Man, did I want one of those... :D

I received mine for free: boxed and with everything included. It was one of the many spoils that were had during my time in a local government job. It sat on a shelf in its box for a year in the office where I worked. A member of the department had returned it after their contract ended and that had been the end of its usage, which was criminal because the department had purchased a dozen of them at £2,000 GBP each!

Eventually, after what seemed like a Groundhog Day of coming to work and looking up from my desk at the box every single day for a year, I decided that boldness was required and I reached up to the shelf, took it down and asked my line manager if I could have it. She then had a brief conversation with her manager and it was removed from the asset list and gifted to me on the spot.

They who dares, wins. (Sometimes!) ;)
 
So, I'm trying to install Mac OS from the disc that supposed to be the original install disc of this powerbook (at least is a grey DVD and the seller send it as the right one). However I get this error while the system is booting. It's not a dvd drive problem (I installed Tiger with no problem).

It's just a bad disc or (more likely) not the right disc for this powerbook?

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The 867mhz requires at least 10.2.3. Or 10.2.7 if an AirPort Extreme upgrade is fitted (yes really!) .

What's your disc saying?
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No fair! :D

My powerbook is the 1.5, model A1104. The disc says 10.2.3. I just check in everymac.com and supposedly my powerbook came with 10.3.7 installed. So I think it's just not the right disc...
 
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They who dares, wins. (Sometimes!) ;)
I have a saying, which my wife has finally understood and adopted after so many years, "it never hurts to ask". The rationale is this: if they say no - then you are no worse off than before asking. But if they say yes… If you don't ask, then you will never know.

Of course, this comes with some caveats. There are a few times where asking would make things worse, or make you look like a greedy SOB or something. But in general it never hurts to ask.
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My powerbook is the 1.5, model A1104. The disc says 10.2.3. I just check in everymac.com and supposedly my powerbook came with 10.3.7 installed. So I think it's just not the right disc...
Correct.

(No idea why I thought you had an 867.)

EDIT: FWIW the 1.5GHz 12" will actually run Jaguar (10.2) with some caveats such as the trackpad not functioning, but you need to start with 10.2.8 for this to work. A grey 10.2.7 DVD (that's as new as Jaguar came) might also work but I can't check that.
 
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I think I've said it before, but in this keynote from 1997 Steve Jobs demonstrates OpenStep running on a pair of what appear to be ThinkPad 560s:

Presumably because x86 was the only architecture that could run NeXTSTEP and had portable computers. I had forgotten that NeXTSTEP didn't run on PowerPC; it was x86, NeXT, and SPARC at that point.

Beyond the Sony Vaios one of the only other PC laptops I recall that approached Apple's level of industrial design was the short-lived Compaq TC1000/1100 tablet PC:
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It was the only one of the tablet-laptop hybrids that had a removeable keyboard. Unfortunately the TC1000 was hobbled by an odd CPU (the Transmeta Crusoe, which apparently used a VM to emulate x86) that was potentially incredible but just ran very slowly.

And there was the OQO, which was designed by the people who came up with the titanium PowerBook, and had a similar look:
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I remember reading that they left Apple because Steve Jobs circa 2001 wasn't interested in making a tablet-laptop. And in retrospect he was right, because none of them were any good, and the OQO went nowhere.

Wasn't there a company circa 2009 or so that converted MacBooks into tablets? You had to buy a MacBook and ship them to this company, and they turned it into a touchscreen tablet.
 
And there was the OQO, which was designed by the people who came up with the titanium PowerBook, and had a similar look:
It also used a Transmeta Efficeon CPU, which was the successor to the Crusoe. As interesting as it was on paper (it could theoretically run stuff for any architecture as long as there was a translator to the CPU's native arch, but there were only ones for Java and x86 code iirc), it was slow as heck.
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Wasn't there a company circa 2009 or so that converted MacBooks into tablets? You had to buy a MacBook and ship them to this company, and they turned it into a touchscreen tablet.
Yep, the Axiotron ModBook.
 
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It was the only one of the tablet-laptop hybrids that had a removeable keyboard. Unfortunately the TC1000 was hobbled by an odd CPU (the Transmeta Crusoe, which apparently used a VM to emulate x86) that was potentially incredible but just ran very slowly.

Sony used the Crusoe CPU on the later models of the C1 Picturebook range. I've got the original version which thankfully has a PII 400Mhz.

While I agree, I am glad that era has passed and packaging tends to be more proportionate now.

I can recall the absolute waste of material used by the music industry for cds during my teenage years…

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The long form CD packaging. I remember seeing those in films from the U.S. during the 90s and being confused as to what they were - because they were never on sale over here in the UK.
 
Sony used the Crusoe CPU on the later models of the C1 Picturebook range. I've got the original version which thankfully has a PII 400Mhz.



The long form CD packaging. I remember seeing those in films from the U.S. during the 90s and being confused as to what they were - because they were never on sale over here in the UK.
I got my first CD player when I was around 14 or 15 (1984). I can remember going to the Wherehouse for CDs after that point and just not understanding all the waste. By this time the music industry had managed to standardize cassettes and so you got the package wrapped in cellophane only. But the industry came up with this packaging so CDs would stand up in the racks. When you got done opening the thing you had the jewel case and this empty box. You were essentially buying air as part of your purchase.

They finally figured out how to display just the jewel case and sell that, but for a short while it was bonkers.
 
its normal that any webpage I load in this powerbook makes CPU goes to 100%? No matter what browser I'm using, TenfourFox, Safari or Webkit.
This also happens in my iMac G5. Both cases running Leopard.
 
its normal that any webpage I load in this powerbook makes CPU goes to 100%? No matter what browser I'm using, TenfourFox, Safari or Webkit.
This also happens in my iMac G5. Both cases running Leopard.
Welcome to the modern internet on a 14+ year old PowerBook. Webcode now days is not optimized and assumes you are using a computer with a processor that can just power through all that code. PowerPC processors just can't do that and anything that would normally be passed off to the GPU is instead also handled by the CPU.

At the top of this forum you will see two stickies. One for foxPEP and one for my tweaks and addons for T4Fx. Go through those to see what you can do for T4Fx. Other than these helps, your only other real option is a PC or an Intel Mac.

At a minimum though, if you're using T4Fx, you should be using uMatrix (or Noscript). You need a way to block all the third party javascript garbage such as analytics and tracking. That's the major stuff that slows things down.
 
Welcome to the modern internet on a 14+ year old PowerBook. Webcode now days is not optimized and assumes you are using a computer with a processor that can just power through all that code. PowerPC processors just can't do that and anything that would normally be passed off to the GPU is instead also handled by the CPU.

At the top of this forum you will see two stickies. One for foxPEP and one for my tweaks and addons for T4Fx. Go through those to see what you can do for T4Fx. Other than these helps, your only other real option is a PC or an Intel Mac.

At a minimum though, if you're using T4Fx, you should be using uMatrix (or Noscript). You need a way to block all the third party javascript garbage such as analytics and tracking. That's the major stuff that slows things down.

Yep, I installed µMatrix and I'm reading the stickies about T4Fx right now.
thank you.
 
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Great album :D Now imagine that kind of packaging for LaserDiscs - wow...
Yeah…at least laserdisc were about the same size as records, so they went with that old packaging. If there was ever a longbox for a laserdisc I've never seen one but I can only imagine how big that would be!
 
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