New iTunes views worthless

[maxrobertson]

Why on earth do some of you people think this guy is wrong? Whether or not he's doing it the "right" way is irrelevant, mainly because there's no "right" way to do it. It's pretty odd in my opinion that it behaves this way. Hopefully, they'll fix this in an update.

 

[Mackilroy]

Why on earth do some of you people think this guy is wrong? Whether or not he's doing it the "right" way is irrelevant, mainly because there's no "right" way to do it. It's pretty odd in my opinion that it behaves this way. Hopefully, they'll fix this in an update.

Perhaps there's no 'right' way, but there is the way it's supposed to work, and he's whining that Apple designed it that way so it'd be accessible to the greatest number of people, in addition to making it harder for people to copy music off of iPods (to appease the music industry, though that's easily circumventable).

 

[KingYaba]

The ability not to use the new views while using the iPod through iTunes is just silly, I don't see why it can't be done.

Yes, I don't see why that can't be done either! I don't understand why I'm using my iPod wrong. I simply can't keep all my music files on my internal HD and my iPod. It's a waste of space to have the same music mirrored on two drives when one will suffice. Apple should know that not all consumers of the iPod can keep all their music on their computers and iPods. So why can't the new features work for the iPod Music Library.

exactly u can get a internal hd for pretty cheap get the size of ur ipod for example or a lil bigger and get a hd inclosure u can get those for 30 bucks with shipping and u probaly can get a internal Hd like a 30-100 gig now for under 100 i would asume i have this and does great especailly for back up plus u can save ur hd from ur old computer if u would ever have to get a new one or get a dl dvd drive The price on those have come down alot i got mine for 99 bucks after instant rebates as well

Well it's easy to talk about buying an external HD. but when push comes to shove, I don't have the funds yet. Extra money I'm getting is going towards a new computer purchase.

Sheesh, you're cranky...

I was just trying to get an appropriate title for the thread, not trying to attack you or anything...

For the rest of us Album art view is hardly worthless, so it's a misleading title.

First off, calling me worthless is an "attack."

The title is fine. It got your attention and many others so it did it's job. 🙂 Plus it is worthless (itunes views), to me and a few others. 😉

I have contacted Apple in a polite manner (unlike here) and expressed this issue. No response.

 

[quigleybc]

First off, calling me worthless is an "attack."

Oh...no no, that's totally not what I was trying to say, sorry, I can see how that could have been interpreted like that....😱 no way was I referring to you as worthless, now I see why you got fired up by that, my bad...😱

What I should have typed was "can a mod change the title of this thread to New iTunes views worthless using an iPod.."

mis communication.

just wanted to clear that up.

 

[penter]

I don't keep any music on my computer's Harddrive...

wait, so you can keep your songs stored ONLY in your ipod?? i've always thought you had to have your songs stored somewhere else to pass into your HD...
how do you do that?

 

[mkrishnan]

You set the iTunes prefs to manually manage the iPod and then once the songs are on the iPod, you just delete them from the iTunes library. But this thread really ought to encourage you to not pursue that option....

 

[spicyapple]

You should invest in an external firewire HD; those are fairly cheap nowadays. I think there's a way to have your iTunes library running off a separate partition.

Or otherwise, the risk of losing an iPod is too great.

 

[gco212]

Honestly, why does everybody keep saying he's doing this the wrong way? It is supported by Apple in a way. While keeping the songs in your iPod rather than your iTunes might be odd, Apple specifically give you the option of allowing you to play songs directly from your iPod. While on someone else's computer, you may want to play music from your iPod, and Apple officially supports that method. I think it's pretty reasonable to want to browse through album art when doing it this way, and would bet Apple will add this functionality in a short while.

 

[srf4real]

I assume Apple to know everything. 😉

Right on. That's why they make the big bucks.

 

[balamw]

It is supported by Apple in a way.

Yes, it is supported by Apple at the cost of certain other functions that are supported in the default mode.

B

 

[Littleodie914]

Yeah they are worthless for those of us who keep all our music on our iPods. WTF! 😡

I see what you're saying, and yea it would be pretty cool (and kinda a no-brainer, yea?) to be able to use all the views regardless of where the music resides, especially the second (album) view.

On thinking about it though, I guess it makes sense about the third "coverflow" view. I'm not sure the hard drive on the iPod would be able to load the art fast enough to make the view even worthwhile, unless Apple was to create a cache every time you plugged in your iPod and opened iTunes. And even then, it'd be wearing your iPod HD down more than you probably want it to.

Definitely see your point on the album view though, kinda strange. 😕

 

[balamw]

Definitely see your point on the album view though, kinda strange. 😕

The fact that the downloaded artwork is not stored in the files makes this even more surprising.

B

 

[thestaton]

whoa whoa whoa. I use a firewire hard drive that I share my collection of music throughout my whole house. it connects through my iMac then I just enable music sharing. launch the MBP down stairs and its just like using it on my iMac.

 

[BornAgainMac]

Yes, I don't see why that can't be done either! I don't understand why I'm using my iPod wrong. I simply can't keep all my music files on my internal HD and my iPod. It's a waste of space to have the same music mirrored on two drives when one will suffice. Apple should know that not all consumers of the iPod can keep all their music on their computers and iPods. So why can't the new features work for the iPod Music Library.

It is a good idea to have a separate external drive you keep at home for your iTunes library (and back that drive up). What happens if your iPod breaks, gets stolen, or lost? 😱

It will cost some money but it is cheaper than starting all over again.

 

[Yvan256]

I just want to ****ing browse my music as if I'd have it all on my computer. I dont' see why there should be a problem with that. I'm using my iPod "wrong?" What the hell am I not getting?

Yes, you are using your iPod in the wrong way. You're supposed to keep the music on your computer. That's the main library. You then sync your library to your iPod.

As for the new views not working from your iPod, it's a technical limitation, not Apple trying to make you mad. When you use the new views, iTunes has to fetch the artwork from the files/albums. However, the iPod hard drive isn't as fast as a computer hard drive. It would be extremely slow and potentially dangerous for the iPod hard drive since it wasn't designed to handle such loads.

 

[6163621]

The (lack of) feature bugs me too. But I am running it on a network share with another machine on my LAN: (more storage space on the RAID array) but since all are tagged why canät it play nicely.

 

[KingYaba]

Still nothing. 🙁