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New laptops are a bust; PC alternatives?

New laptops are a BUST?

haha okaay but yeah most people on MACRUMORS forums are looking for Mac related products, why don't you go to the PC Forums I'm sure they can help out a lot better, hope you find what ur looking for, I already have and its the new busted macbook! :D
 
I'm not sure what kind of PC you might need. Go for an HP. They have some great deals with the same specs and smaller price range (using online coupons).

And are there any PC laptops with backlit keyboards?
 
NT1440 said:
lol beric is no where near the level of mosx

beric is a good guy, just a little too money oriented for me (but as a student, he is in the right to consider pricing as heavily as he does)
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mosx actually dislikes OS X. I like OS X but dislike both the laptops Apple makes and their prices. mosx also has more years of experience (being alive ;)).

I'm a moderate gamer who also uses a computer for homework/papers ect., and of course web browsing. Because I'm a student, I have limited time I can spend working, and therefore money vs. specs is everything. I don't have the money to pay for design, which is Apple's strength. As such, my ideal Apple is one that focuses on the OS X it makes, not the machines it runs on.
 
I'm following this thread eagerly, I'm not buying any of the new laptops from Apple. Apple has made computers that I won't buy, and that's something... I can't believe it, but I need a windows machine now.

And as someone else said, I've never seen this kind of negativity about a new release from Apple. There have always been complainers, but I've never seen this level of acrimony and refusal to buy the new products. It's safe to say that Apple has screwed up.

Isaac
 
If you're not considering a refurb, I'd get a Thinkpad. You can knock a few hundred dollars off via an ecode through dealigg.com. You'll get a much better value for your money, and a far more professional laptop.
 
Most people I have talked to (Apple fans) are very disappointed. I think most people (who are honest) were expecting much more and rightfully so considering the price and other factors. I'm sure the ones who just purchased it or about to will make the new Macbook seem like the greatest thing since slice bread, but deep down they know it should of been more at that price point. As far as the looks, I hate the 2-tone, but I can see why some like it. I just feel it makes it look cheap and PC. I thought Apple designers dropped the ball big time with this one. Hopefully they will revisit this sooner rather than later.
 
flipperanubi said:
Remember, the thing about going with Apple stuff is that Steve Jobs has told you what you want.

He's not offering anything cheaper because you don't want to spend that little.

Spend.. Be happy. Spend more. Be happier. Spend. Buy.
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yes, all apple buyers are drooling idiots, we dont buy (or will buy in my case) because of things that apple does better at all. OSX isnt a part of why people buy macs at all either :rolleyes:
 
heatmiser said:
If you're not considering a refurb, I'd get a Thinkpad. You can knock a few hundred dollars off via an ecode through dealigg.com. You'll get a much better value for your money, and a far more professional laptop.
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+1

If you go windows, there's no better laptop in my opinion than a Thinkpad. I'm typing on one now!
 
mason.kramer said:
To Pedromiguel: Honestly, there is not much difference between a kunbutu distribution and a mac. Both are POSIX certified UNIX-like operating systems. Both operate the hardware. Both respond to the same terminal commands. Both have firefox. The only things I'll miss in the switch are Xcode and the Mail.app/iCal/Address Book stuff. Oh, and Quicksilver. Damn. Maybe I will be punishing myself....But the price spread between a PC and a comparably-specced Mac has just gotten too big for me to stomach.
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Actually, there's a huge difference. I've been using Ubuntu for awhile, and I love it. See my sig. Before that, SuSe, and before that, Fedora (1 through 7).

As good as Linux is, it just doesn't have the software support that Mac and Windows does. No, Gimp isn't as good as Photoshop. No, Ardour isn't as good as Pro Tools or Logic. No, OpenOffice isn't as good as MS Office. No, Cinelerra isn't as good as FCP or Premiere.

That's the real problem, and in my opinion the reason why Linux hasn't seen wider adoption.

If I could get real MS Office, Photoshop, Logic, Reason, FCP, etc. on Linux, I probably wouldn't be here right now talking about Macs.
 
polaris20 said:
+1

If you go windows, there's no better laptop in my opinion than a Thinkpad. I'm typing on one now!
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+2... as long as you don't need a lot of GPU horsepower, I totally agree. Outside of netbook sized devices, in the world of full size notebooks, Thinkpad would be my one-stop shopping place.
 
Sorry to necro this but I thought someone would be interested. I ended up getting a blackbook 2ghz from craiglist for $800. I realized that the guy on the first page was right, and buying a Windows was going to hurt me more than Apple. The new laptops are a ripoff is only hardware specs are compared, but I realized that I'm willing to pay for an OS that I like. :apple:
 
mason.kramer said:
Sorry to necro this but I thought someone would be interested. I ended up getting a blackbook 2ghz from craiglist for $800. I realized that the guy on the first page was right, and buying a Windows was going to hurt me more than Apple. The new laptops are a ripoff is only hardware specs are compared, but I realized that I'm willing to pay for an OS that I like. :apple:
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Cool, and good price. I've been trying to snag another BlackBook off of CL for my sister, but the prices haven't been as cheap as I expected with the new MacBooks. I could get her an el cheap-o windows laptop, but she's had enough of those. I'm going to keep trying.
 
Holy smokes, following the links from you guys to HP, I priced this out;

• Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P8600 (2.4 GHz)
• 18.4" diagonal High Definition HP Ultra BrightView Infinity Display (1920x1080p)
• 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
• 250GB 5400RPM SATA
• Webcam + Fingerprint Reader
• Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card
• Lightscribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
• HP Integrated HDTV Hybrid Tuner
• 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

$1,614.99

Wow. That's cheaper than the fastest MacBook with 4 GB of ram in it.
 
PeterQVenkman said:
Holy smokes, following the links from you guys to HP, I priced this out;

• Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P8600 (2.4 GHz)
• 18.4" diagonal High Definition HP Ultra BrightView Infinity Display (1920x1080p)
• 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
• 250GB 5400RPM SATA
• Webcam + Fingerprint Reader
• Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card
• Lightscribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
• HP Integrated HDTV Hybrid Tuner
• 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

$1,614.99

Wow. That's cheaper than the fastest MacBook with 4 GB of ram in it.
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18.4 inches! That thing is a freakin' tank. Laptops are suppose to be PORTABLE. I get people asking me all the time if my new MacBook is the MB Air... This thing is almost as portable as it gets. And after using Windoze my whole life I don't think I'll ever go back... OS X is far superior in just about every way compared to Windoze.
 
Chase R said:
18.4 inches! That thing is a freakin' tank. Laptops are suppose to be PORTABLE. .
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How about this one? Same specs, but a 16 inch monitor:

• Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P8600 (2.4 GHz)
• 16.0" diagonal High Definition HP Ultra BrightView Infinity Display (1920x1080p)
• 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
• 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• Webcam + Fingerprint Reader with HP Imprint Finish (Fluid)
• Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card
• Lightscribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
• HP Integrated HDTV Hybrid Tuner

$1,764.99.


Gah, now that I'm really looking at work options, the HPs are going for ridiculously low prices.


Comparing to MacBook Pro:

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT with 256MB
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
250GB Serial ATA @ 5400
Built in iSight
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
- No Blu ray
- No lightscribe drive (for $15 extra on the HP, I'll take it)
- No HDTV tuner
- Half the VRAM
- lower res monitor

$2,034.00

Whew, I can't believe I'm considering jumping ship.
 
The two BlueLabel units at Best Buy, although being Windows Vista Machines, looks pretty nice and are around 1000 USD. I much prefer the Toshiba over the HP BTW.
 
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