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So what you're saying is Apple managed to develop, test and manufacture an updated MacBook Pro somewhere in between the month the iMac was released and Thunderbolt 2 suddenly became available. Of course they did.

While the physical TB 2.0 Controller may be identical (or not?), I'd wager that the test and integration process for the MacBook Pro hardware has different dependencies than the test and integration process for the iMac hardware.

Or maybe it IS just a malicious conspiracy by Apple to screw their "Late 2013" iMac buyers, who knows.
 
While the physical TB 2.0 Controller may be identical (or not?), I'd wager that the test and integration process for the MacBook Pro hardware has different dependencies than the test and integration process for the iMac hardware.

Or maybe it IS just a malicious conspiracy by Apple to screw their "Late 2013" iMac buyers, who knows.

No, the controller is definitely NOT the same. It will work with existing Thunderbolt cables, because "TB1" has 2 channels of 10Gbps each (one for PCIe, one for DP), and all that "TB2" does is combine the channels for both PCIe and DisplayPort.
 
I think next imac will get TB 2, though I dont care much about it.

What I do look forward to though is the 880mx card with 8gb of vram and i7 8 cores....anybody knows the release date for those ? I assume the next imac will be about the same time.
 
No, the controller is definitely NOT the same. It will work with existing Thunderbolt cables, because "TB1" has 2 channels of 10Gbps each (one for PCIe, one for DP), and all that "TB2" does is combine the channels for both PCIe and DisplayPort.

Not that it matters, but I meant the TB 2.0 controller hardware that would be used for the iMac versus the TB 2.0 controller hardware used in the MBP.
 
I think the Thunderbolt 2 spec was simply not available at the time the latest iMacs came out

Maybe not so much the specs, but Intel were saying that the chips wouldn't be available in production quantities until 2014.

So what you're saying is Apple managed to develop, test and manufacture an updated MacBook Pro somewhere in between the month the iMac was released and Thunderbolt 2 suddenly became available. Of course they did.

Yeah. It was an evil plan to cruelly force planned obsolescence onto iMac buyers by omitting a feature that nobody was expecting anyway... replaced just a month later by an evil plan to cruelly force future-proof TB2 on rMBP buyers when the feature hadn't been expected for another 6 months. Hmm.

I don't happen to have any inside knowledge of Apple's development process, but I think that we can be pretty sure that both design processes started and the specs were frozen months before the machines were released. There are 101 possible reasons why it might have been practical or desirable to add TB2 to one but not the other. Maybe the iMac was an older design who's launch was delayed by a tech problem, component shortage or a surplus stock of older models. Maybe the rMBP team had to go back to the drawing board to fix a gremlin, and took the opportunity to add TB2 support at the last minute. Maybe the early TB2 chips had a glitch that affects the iMac but not the rMBP.
Or maybe Apple got a limited supply of TB2 chips at the last minute (they weren't expected until 2014, remember) and had to prioritise which machine would get them first.

Who knows? Apple don't discuss this sort of thing.

It was slightly odd that the iMac got released before the rMBP - which would be consistent with the rMBP being held back so it could get TB2.
 
So what you're saying is Apple managed to develop, test and manufacture an updated MacBook Pro somewhere in between the month the iMac was released and Thunderbolt 2 suddenly became available. Of course they did.

I think you seriously underestimate the undertaking of spec updates. Its not the same as replacing a light bulb. Apple clearly saw a need for the mbps to have TB2 before the imac so they allocated resources.
 
I don't think it matters anyway due to the dearth of TB peripherals out in the market. Besides, TB1 is already fast enough for most. I can top 700MB/s+ easily with my Pegasus R6 12TB connected via TB1.

And TB1 is just as expandable as TB2 as well (the Caldigit Thunderbolt dock for instance).
 
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