New Mac Mini based on Intel Ion platform - March Launch

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  1. nylon macrumors 65816

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    If that's going to happen, they may as well kill off the mini for good instead of tarnishing it's memory with that.

    I have an Eee PC and the thought of a desktop computer being powered by Atom is horrific.
     
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    It's not new thing that Mini will use nvidia chipset. I would like to know the source of launch month. I hope it comes sooner than in 2 months. We'll see...
     
  4. nylon thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, I'm not sure how this platform combination compares to the current platform. It's still technically a rumor, but it seems likely.
     
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    No, it doesn't. The Atom is an extremely anemic platform and is less than the current entry-level Mini. If Apple uses it, it'll more likely go in a netbook or even the Apple TV update. The only way I can envision this in a Mini is if they plan to use OpenCL and leverage the 9400m.
     
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    yeah, Apple TV with that more likely, in my opinion.
    Recent rumors were hinting at an a lot more powerful Mac Mini, dual DVI if I'm not mistaking, and power efficiency, the whole concept of Atom is not of any interest for a "desktop", I could be wrong though.
     
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    If this ends up being true, I'm sure glad I went ahead and purchased a 3.06GHz iMac and didn't wait for a new "Mac Mini" to be released.
     
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    This isn't an Atom platform. It's Nvidia's Ion platform (9400M) paired with a dual core Atom 330. The Ion platform doesn't seem "anemic" at all. In fact, having read some of the information it seems like it's considerably more powerful then the current Mac Mini offering.
     
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    on a side note, I don't see apple crippling the mini to a FSB of 533MHz, it would have to be called Mac pu**y not mini
     
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    I don't think Apple is made up of 6 year olds. This definitely won't happen.
     
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    Best thing I have read all day :)
     
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    The Atom is a terrible step back from even budget dual core mobile Celerons/Semprons. The 9400M G is another story but that's the IGP and not the processor.

    The front side bus and RAM clock ratios aren't always 1:1.
     
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    this looks better, even though I'm curious to know if a real core2duo or quad could eventually get on that board.
    the first link of yours said the atom had a 533MHz frequency though..
     
  17. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    Thanks for clipping my reference to OpenCL and the 9400M. :rolleyes: Nothing like quoting out of context.
     
  18. nylon thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Some more info:

    http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/12/nvidia-ion-platform-gets-demonstrated-at-ces/

    I'm not sure if the Ion only supports Atom CPU's given the specs. Since It's a 9400M I'm sure it's capable of supporting other CPU's as well given it's the same chip that's in the current Macbook (Pro). Only time will tell what Apple actually uses. It might be a hybrid of some sort. Still very interesting proposition.
     
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    Maybe this whole DC Atom 330 + Ion platform is the new entry model?
    Possibly at a $399 price tag :D


    ....... Or I may be just dreaming.
     
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    Ion is nVidia's 9400M platform for the Atom processor. The 9400M chipset already supports desktop and mobile processors. :rolleyes:
     
  21. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    Ion = Atom + 9400M.

    What's absolutely certain is that Atom-based hackintoshes get really crappy Geekbench scores, far below that of the entry-level Mac Mini. If you want better performance out of Ion under OS X, it will have to rely on the 9400's CUDA technology and Snow Leopard's OpenCL.
     
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    Yup, absolutely correct. OpenCL and CUDA are a given for Snow Leopard.

    Weather this ends up in the new Mini or whatever replaces the Mini will depend on what kind of product differentiation Apple is looking for. What kind of price/performance it's going for. Weather it can get the job done for entry level computing. The current dated Mini seems less powerful then the capabilities of the alleged Ion platform to be used.
     
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    That's absolutely idiotic. You may as well just call the iPod shuffle the Mac Mini with the kind of processing power it would have.
     
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    You might want to do a little more research first. I strongly suggest it.
     
  25. iMacmatician macrumors 601

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    Atom would be a large step back in performance. But then again, Apple lowered the GHz of the $1299 MacBook and used the GPU to make up for the difference, maybe Apple is doing the same thing here? (Although a 17% GHz reduction is nowhere near a Core 2 Duo -> Atom.)

    Does this mean that the $999 white MacBook will be replaced with a $999 Atom aluminum MacBook?

    If true, this increases the likelihood of a netbook too, or at least a smaller and slimmer MacBook Air.

    Although I'm not sure how "An Nvidia partner confirmed to us that Apple was the first to receive samples of Nvidia's Ion platform, which we covered extensively during CES. In fact, Apple received prototype units long before Nvidia partners who opted to work on Ion" ended up into "Confirmed: Apple Mac Mini Based on Nvidia Ion."
     

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