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New Mac Mini Coming by End of February According to Belgian Retailer
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And that's something they should never fear. Isn't this the same company that made the iPod Nano when the iPod Mini was at the height of its popularity? Things change. If the iMac is vulnerable to having its sales absorbed by something else, then maybe that's a sign that it's overstayed its welcome.
Regardless, Apple missed the boat with this big time. I knew soooooooo many Windows users about 5-6 years ago who were very interested in OS X but couldn't find a Mac they were comfortable buying. And that's not just anecdotal. You can see it in the rise of the "hackintosh" movement. The desire to own a Mac is there in the PC world but not many PC buyers want an all-in-one iMac. They also don't want something with little to no expansion and they don't want to spend >$2K for a Mac Pro. There's a middle ground there that Apple has neglected for #$@% knows whatever reason. Prior to Windows 7, I suspect such a machine could have converted a lot of Windows users. But now, Microsoft has more or less caught up with OS X and it's far less compelling a move.
Still, I'd buy one. If only Apple would figure this out and discontinue the iMac and move on already.
No, they are over. Do you think a single of those guys who keep asking, whether it has dedicated graphics, is in the market for a $3000 Mac Pro or a $2600 MacBook Pro? For consumers and semi-professionals the days of dedicated graphics are over.
It may be cheap - but it's still of good quality, also according to Anandtech and a lot of other sites. And their being 30p only wouldn't really annoy me as I strongly prefer resolution over framerate - I don't game but either code or write. In both cases, the higher the resolution and less the pixelization, the better. (This is why I've went for the a/t-series "p" IBM Thinkpads (a21p, a31p, t42p, t43p, t60p etc.) ever since their debut and, then, after switching to the Mac, stuck with 17" MBP's - I needed the biggest resolution.)
The Mac Mini could be a VERY good dev machine. (Devs need SSDs and hi-res monitors.) They aren't only for the casual Office folks.
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You only referred to the Mac Pro in your original post:
"I'd posit it will be at least another 2 years before there is lots of 4k content choice on iTunes, which leads me to think this upcoming Mac Mini generation won't support 4k. It will eventually, sure. But there is only currently one Mac that does support it... the Mac Pro."
Mac Pros most definitely don't include rMBP's...
Guys, guys, guys...
I'm originally from Belgium and Coolblue has never been known for decent product leaks/announcements. So, just a tip, don't think of this as "it's a interesting leak" but more like "the webmaster had too many Duvel yesterday and f*cked up the product description.
I'm originally from Belgium and Coolblue has never been known for decent product leaks/announcements. So, just a tip, don't think of this as "it's a interesting leak" but more like "the webmaster had too many Duvel yesterday and f*cked up the product description.
Yeah, a 'Mac' i.e, Mac Mini, iMac, Mac Pro. I wasn't referring to the MacBook line.
I also meant; there is a reason why the MacBook Pro line support 4k it's aimed at the professional market.
Apple dont just whack the latest and greatest bleeding edge technology into all of their product lines. Point in case, the MBA still isnt retina ready. Why exactly do people think Apple will support 4k for a minor product line like the Mini at this time?
Well, not discontinue the iMac, but improve the mini, or better yet, add another line for enthusiasts like us.
I really, really DO NOT WANT TO RETURN TO WINDOWS!
Setting up a hackingtosh, while it could be fun, would be too time consuming initially for me.
So here I am, stuck in Apple wish-land, sad to see that the company I once adored, died (somewhat) with Steve.
I mean, come on! YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY ALREADY APPLE!! Give us something we want for a change. Just one thing!!!
Pretty bold claim, considering graphics cards are still regularly talking points on enthusiast messageboards, and are selling just as well as they ever have. For gamers, to the prosumers, to the high end pros, they'll be seeking out dedicated cards for at least the next few years. And even then only if integrated GPUs become considerably better than they are now.
Of course the baseline consumer doesn't have any pressing need for one, but then again, they never really have. Here, integrated GPUs are good enough.
I'm with you. I remember seeing a similar display for some German site preparing to sell an updated iWorks, about two years before it actually arrived. A VERY slow two years it was.
Also, with Apple and life in general, don't call it "foresight" when what you really mean is "alcohol."
That's just CPU. You ignored that iMac has four ram slots for 32 gigs, PCIe SSD up to 1TB, up to 7200 rpm 3TB hard drive, extra thunderbolt port, and better GPU. And why compare to a 2012 iMac instead of 2013 (17% faster than the top mini on geek bench)?
None of those make any difference that a user would notice?
Or maybe they want exactly what they're asking for.
If these only come with one thunderbolt port, would Apple allow the HDMI port to output 2560x1600? I know they limit the HDMI output on the rMBPs to 1920x1200 even though they are capable of higher resolutions in Windows.
I certainly don't think they will. I know the Mini is not a workhorse, not even those of coders, let alone media people. (For the latter, the Mac Pro is indeed a must.) Nevertheless, given that there isn't anything in Apple's current lineup that I could upgrade to (I consider 15" rMBP's far less productive than 17" ones so they aren't an upgrade for me), I *hope* the Mini would be made a more coding professional-oriented by adding 4K output. (I'm not asking for Mac Pro-level stuff really only needed by the movie folks. Just 4K output and easy SSD upgrades by hand.)
Currently, I can only hope there'll be a decent 17...19" PC / hybrid tablet with a 4K screen with full OSX86 compatibility so that I can have the best of both worlds: OS X running on some smashing, no-joke hardware. A lost customer for Apple if they don't come up with some decent hardware for 17" die-hards like me.
I don't know what kind of limitations will include now that the Mac Pro is available. I mean all pro departments (where I work) use Mac Minies.
The Mini has always been better in potential than in what Apple has delivered in it, both in horsepower/functions and price. It's almost like they've been releasing them begrudgingly. They can be great when they're a good fit, but Apple's unwillingness to make them more attractive since their introduction makes their priority of not cannibalizing their other hardware undeniable.
Disagree with me all you want. It won't make Apple build it. Remember, I'm not telling you what I think. I'm telling you what I think Apple will do. Big difference.
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Why are you arguing with ME, when your dispute is with Apple, a company that doesn't have the slightest interest in building the machine you want because they can't sell enough of them?
For Windoze! Apple has kissed dedicated graphics good bye. And they are never coming back (to affordable Macs).
Look at the top of this site, it says "news and rumors you care about". There are lots of things we just don't care about here, among them are talking points on enthusiast boards. The rest of the world might continue to life with dedicated graphics or not, for mainstream Apple users this era is over. Dead like a Dodo or an ODD.
It's like I want to criticize what you're saying, but...but...you're already doing it for me! I dunno how to take this. Are you...like...parodying yourself? I DON'T UNDERSTAND!
Totally agree. For what 99% of the people buying Mac minis are doing, dedicated graphics isn't at all necessary.
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Maybe for basic development but most of us developers want as much power as we can get when it comes time for compiling and other fun.
They're OK for developing stuff like basic iOS stuff.
Then again developers make up a very small portion of those buying these things. There aren't a lot of developers out there in all and most of them I know do most of their work on a MBP.
Firewire? Then it is definitely not a redesign. They would've gotten rid of it as soon as possible.
Fine, cognitive dissonance is the first step to overcome a false believe. You have to unlearn everything you think you know about PCs. Because your predisposition is misleading you in your continuously failed afford to understand Macs. If Apple stops to support a technology, it practically ceases to exist. You can either accept the new reality or switch to another platform. What you can't do is to complain about what people want. Peoples opinions don't count as long they are not working at Apple.
I'm in that boat. I never really seriously thought about Apple until a few years ago. Now our household has 4 iPhones and 3 iPads. As computers have started to age, I've considered switching over to Mac. But as a long time PC user, I'm not crazy about dropping $1500 on an all in one system. I just have this fear that if one component goes down, the whole thing is dead. Over the years I've easily swapped out components and it's kept on humming.
I'd be REALLY intrigued with a Mac Mini with the right specs/price...but it sounds like I shouldn't get my hopes up...
I would never buy an all-in-one. I don't care who makes it. Apple's AIO designs are by far the worse because you can't service them due to the design. I recently bought a Mini and will probably buy another one when it gets released. I did buy the Apple wireless keyboard and Apple trackpad.