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muzzy63

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Shall i buy current Mac Pro (late 2013) or shall i wait for new one.I know probably this question been asked before but i would appreciate your input.I have currently mid 2010 Mac Pro and i'm a pro photographer and it's getting slower by everday.Thanks in advance.
 

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Shall i buy current Mac Pro (late 2013) or shall i wait for new one.I know probably this question been asked before but i would appreciate your input.I have currently mid 2010 Mac Pro and i'm a pro photographer and it's getting slower by everday.Thanks in advance.
There may never be a new one. It's quite possible that Apple will cancel the product line.
 
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Latest rumor indicates that Apple may do some hardware announcements in September. It's anybody's guess at this point.
 
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If your current system isn't meeting your needs then, love it or hate it, a nMP seems to be the logical choice. That is unless you're willing to move to an iMac or move off of the Mac platform.
 
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Nobody knows. I would wait till September if you can. The current MP is a pretty bad deal right now.

Maybe an upgrade can tide you over for a few months?
 
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muzzy63

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If your current system isn't meeting your needs then, love it or hate it, then a nMP seems to be the logical choice. That is unless you're willing to move to an iMac or move off of the Mac platform.
I don't really want to move to different platform to be honest and thats the problem with me.
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Nobody knows. I would wait till September if you can. The current MP is a pretty bad deal right now.

Maybe an upgrade can tide you over for a few months?
What can i upgrade?
 
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Maybe an upgrade can tide you over for a few months?
The MP5,1 can be upgraded to meet or better the performance of the cylinder. There are lots of posts here about how.

For starters, getting an SSD for your system/work disk can be an incredible bang-for-the-buck. If you are short on RAM, that's another simple upgrade.
 
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Shall i buy current Mac Pro (late 2013) or shall i wait for new one.

I'd wait until at least the end of September. At that point you can make a fully informed decision on what to buy as by then, you'll know what Apple's plans are for the Mac Pro either through announcements or their continued silence.

To buy now would be quite risky because if Apple plan to do something further with a new Mac Pro, it will happen this calendar year.
 
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muzzy63

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I'd wait until at least the end of September. At that point you can make a fully informed decision on what to buy as by then, you'll know what Apple's plans are for the Mac Pro either through announcements or their continued silence.

To buy now would be quite risky because if Apple plan to do something further with a new Mac Pro, it will happen this calendar year.
To be honest i was thinking to wait a few more months but then again its like lottery with apple!
 
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I'd wait until at least the end of September. At that point you can make a fully informed decision on what to buy as by then, you'll know what Apple's plans are for the Mac Pro either through announcements or their continued silence.

To buy now would be quite risky because if Apple plan to do something further with a new Mac Pro, it will happen this calendar year.
The MP6,1 is two CPU generations out of date.

AMD is shortly due to release Polaris GPUs which seem like a good fit for the power/heat constraints of the MP6,1.

I'd consider it a bad omen for the Mac Pro that Apple didn't announce an update at the MacWorld SF two weeks ago.

I'd update the MP5,1 now, and hope that September's show doesn't announce the end of the Mac Pro.
 
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I'd wait until at least the end of September. At that point you can make a fully informed decision on what to buy as by then, you'll know what Apple's plans are for the Mac Pro either through announcements or their continued silence.

To buy now would be quite risky because if Apple plan to do something further with a new Mac Pro, it will happen this calendar year.
This was the same advice we heard a few weeks ago except it was WWDC instead of September. If you need a new computer now then buy the new computer now.
 
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I like to base decisions based on evidence, not assumptions. By the end of September, you'll have concentre evidence on whether Apple will be releasing a new Mac Pro this year. You can then decide what to do based on that information.

An assumption I am making (which I think is fairly reasonable) that if Apple don't release a Mac Pro this year, then I think that says a lot about where Apple places its priorities in relation to the Mac Pro.
 
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muzzy63

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I like to base decisions based on evidence, not assumptions. By the end of September, you'll have concentre evidence on whether Apple will be releasing a new Mac Pro this year. You can then decide what to do based on that information.

An assumption I am making (which I think is fairly reasonable) that if Apple don't release a Mac Pro this year, then I think that says a lot about where Apple places its priorities in relation to the Mac Pro.
So you are saying that if even apple announce new mac pro end of September but it will not be on market for while then.
 
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I like to base decisions based on evidence, not assumptions. By the end of September, you'll have concentre evidence on whether Apple will be releasing a new Mac Pro this year. You can then decide what to do based on that information.

An assumption I am making (which I think is fairly reasonable) that if Apple don't release a Mac Pro this year, then I think that says a lot about where Apple places its priorities in relation to the Mac Pro.
There's no evidence to show Apple will or will not release a new Mac Pro by September. Such a belief is speculation without supporting facts. If September comes and goes without a new Mac Pro will we hear "Wait until 2017...it's only a few months away and then we'll have concrete evidence on whether Apple will be releasing a new Mac Pro".

It's always wait until <insert milestone here>. This exact argument was being made about WWDC. Now it's September. If September comes and goes without a new Mac Pro the only thing we'll know for sure is Apple didn't release a new Mac Pro in September. It doesn't conclusively say they will or will not release a new Mac Pro or, if they do, when.
 
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There's no evidence to show Apple will or will not release a new Mac Pro by September. Such a belief is speculation without supporting facts. If September comes and goes without a new Mac Pro will we hear "Wait until 2017...it's only a few months away and then we'll have concrete evidence on whether Apple will be releasing a new Mac Pro".

It's always wait until <insert milestone here>. This exact argument was being made about WWDC. Now it's September. If September comes and goes without a new Mac Pro the only thing we'll know for sure is Apple didn't release a new Mac Pro in September. It doesn't conclusively say they will or will not release a new Mac Pro or, if they do, when.


My point is simple - any major hardware announcements that are to be released this calendar year are done by the end of September for the holiday season. This is fact. So we will know one way or another if a Mac Pro is going to be released this year.

And my other point is simple - I wouldn't wait until next year because it says a lot if Apple allow the Mac Pro to grow 4 years old. So I am founded in fact :)
 
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My point is simple - any major hardware announcements that are to be released this calendar year are done by the end of September for the holiday season. This is fact. So we will know one way or another if a Mac Pro is going to be released this year.
Perfect! Can you point me to an official Apple document which states they will / will not have a new Mac Pro in September?

And my other point is simple - I wouldn't wait until next year because it says a lot if Apple allow the Mac Pro to grow 4 years old. So I am founded in fact :)
I'm making that same argument about 3 years (given Apple could have updated it multiple times during that time).

There are no guarantees. I think the nMP is a poor value. But if I needed one for my profession I would buy one. It's not ideal but it's better than suffering on the off chance Apple might release a new one based on some speculative point in time.
 
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Perfect! Can you point me to an official Apple document which states they will / will not have a new Mac Pro in September?

Sure - look at history - Apple are great at repeating it every year :). Show me one year where they broke that rule...

I'm making that same argument about 3 years (given Apple could have updated it multiple times during that time).

There are no guarantees. I think the nMP is a poor value. But if I needed one for my profession I would buy one. It's not ideal but it's better than suffering on the off chance Apple might release a new one based on some speculative point in time.

I agree that the current Mac Pro is poor value. But I also think going and buying a new machine right now when September is around the corner would be silly, as we will know for certain whether one will be released this year. I've stopped investing in my current Mac Pro for this very reason - I'll hold out and suffer a bit more because I feel it would be stupid to throw good money down the drain if another mac pro is released this year. And if one isn't released, that is also telling me where Apple prioritise the Mac Pro and I'll make my decisions on that. But that's my opinion - for which the OP asked for.
 
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Sure - look at history - Apple are great at repeating it every year :). Show me one year where they broke that rule...
You said it was fact. I don't see any facts. Furthermore I don't recall Apple having gone so long without at least some upgrade to the Mac Pro...even if minor. Therefore history is not a good indicator of anything.

I agree that the current Mac Pro is poor value. But I also think going and buying a new machine right now when September is around the corner would be silly, as we will know for certain whether one will be released this year. I've stopped investing in my current Mac Pro for this very reason - I'll hold out and suffer a bit more because I feel it would be stupid to throw good money down the drain if another mac pro is released this year. And if one isn't released, that is also telling me where Apple prioritise the Mac Pro and I'll make my decisions on that. But that's my opinion - for which the OP asked for.
Yeah it sucks to buy a new computer only to have a new one come out a few months later. But if you're being hindered by the current system and the current "new" system will relieve you of that bottleneck it's money well spent. You gain immediate productivity even if you ultimately end up with a computer which is not the latest version in a few months.

If it were me I'd be moving away from Apple. Never in their history have I seen so much of their product line fall so far behind. It's clear to me they're no longer concerned with their Mac users. If they were they'd have already updated the Mac Pro. Professionals need more certainty. While Apple has never published their plans historically we have seen refreshes in their product line at more frequent intervals. Thus there was little concern about their commitment to the platform. The same cannot be said today. To have professionals waiting until some speculative milestone to know whether Apple is going to deliver something new or not? Unacceptable.
 
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You said it was fact. I don't see any facts. Furthermore I don't recall Apple having gone so long without at least some upgrade to the Mac Pro...even if minor. Therefore history is not a good indicator of anything.

I said it is fact that Apple announce all major hardware releases (note I said major - they do silent minor incremental updates sometimes in October) by the end of September for a calendar year. They have always done that. Every single year. So we will know, for certain, in absolute terms, by the end of September whether a Mac Pro will be released this year by the end of September.

Anyway, I gotta run. Back to your normal programming...
 
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muzzy63

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Thank you very much for your input i really appreciated for your time.I think i have to sleep on this and see whats happening in morning.
 
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The thing to think about is if they do update it this time, will they do it again. Years ago, Macs were updated on a pretty regular basis so if your Mac was getting long on the tooth, you could be pretty certain that another one was coming since they had updates almost yearly. Now if you want yearly updates, you'll need to look at an iMac. It costs less and you can update it more often as needed. Far from ideal but it is something to consider
 
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I said it is fact that Apple announce all major hardware releases (note I said major - they do silent minor incremental updates sometimes in October) by the end of September for a calendar year. They have always done that. Every single year. So we will know, for certain, in absolute terms, by the end of September whether a Mac Pro will be released this year by the end of September.

Anyway, I gotta run. Back to your normal programming...
Did they announce a new Mac Pro by September of 2014? How about September 2015? Answer: No, they did not. So why would 2016 be any different?
 
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