New MacBook Mooing and Falling Apart!

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by 1848, May 20, 2006.

  1. 1848 macrumors newbie

    May 20, 2006
    I'm going to keep this really short. First off, my MacBook (white 2.0ghz) exhibits the 'moo' phenomenon that we have all heard about. This is sure to get annoying in any quiet atmosphere such as a library or bedroom.
    Secondly, the 'b' key fell off of my MacBook. I like the feel of the new keyboard design, however when you see the two TINY, FRAIL plastic clips on the underside, one can reasonably assume that this could turn into another big quality control dilemma.
    I've had my MacBook since Tuesday evening and will be taking it back first thing Sunday for a quick (hopefully) exchange.
    I've already seen some other posts regarding the 'moo', but has anyone else had the keyboard problem with their MacBook?
  2. dmetzcher macrumors regular

    Nov 26, 2005
    Good luck with the exchange. They might just replace the keyboard.
    Insist on an exchange, if that's what you want, and threaten to just return the thing. You can do so, for a 10% return fee once the box is opened, and they don't like it when people return things. If you wind up returning it, and they charge you the 10% fee, just call your credit card company and do a chargeback on the fee, stating that you returned faulty merchandise and the fee should not apply.
  3. Deepdale macrumors 68000


    May 4, 2005
    New York
    Have others had real problems with CC companies eliminating that fee once it has been assessed, even though the reason seems like it should justify removal?
  4. faintember macrumors 65816


    Jun 6, 2005
    the ruins of the Cherokee nation
    Sorry to hear your problems.

    I do have a question regarding your "b" key. Did it feel different than any of the other keys before it fell off?
  5. macenforcer macrumors 65816


    Jun 9, 2004

    Did this with PCConnection over a crappy vaio I returned. It was no problem.
  6. generik macrumors 601


    Aug 5, 2005
    The trouble is if you do this will Apple even do business with you in the future?
  7. Arne macrumors regular

    May 14, 2006
    OMG I was going to buy a MacBook but I gues I'll have to wait at least a month or so :-/
  8. balamw Moderator


    Staff Member

    Aug 16, 2005
    New England
    FWIW No can do. The MacBook's KB is integrated into the casing, unlike the previous model iBook and Powerbook's which had easily replaceable keyboards. They made it so the HDD is easily replaceable in the MB though...

  9. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    Building the keyboard into the MacBook's frame is going to be the dumbest mistake they ever made. I've had my keyboard replaced before. If it breaks, and I don't have Applecare, do they expect me to pay like $400 or some obscene sky-Apple-high price for a new case when they really should have just made the keyboard replaceable for around $100??? :confused: And what about Applecare fixes? Are they going to take everything out of my laptop and put it in a new casing if my keyboard is faulty?

    It's stupid.
  10. Apple Corps macrumors 68030

    Apr 26, 2003
    Abstract - I would ditto your thoughts. When I worked in high tech many years ago we forced design engineering and production engineering together at the START of projects to better reflect warranty / repair needs. Too much ultra thin design emphasis and eye candy - where is the manufacturing excellence?
  11. someguy macrumors 68020


    Dec 4, 2005
    Still here.
    moo? Are you serious? That's hilarious!!

    I'm sorry, I know it's not funny to those who are having the problem with their new 'books, but c'mon, moo!? That's just funny anyway you look at it! I wanna hear!!



    I was also thinking of buying a BlacBook (my nickname for black MacBooks) but I'm becoming afraid to buy any new Apple product, especially a notebook!
  12. 1848 thread starter macrumors newbie

    May 20, 2006
    Thanks for the comments/suggestions. I think I'm gonna take out the 2gb ram upgrade i popped in there just so they don't have any room for complaint when I bring it in. As far as the question about whether the key felt different. No,... everything seemed to be working just fine... until I presssed it one time and the bottom left corne of the B key got stuck below the plastic base of the interior surface. I pressed it again, and it popped right off. Now, it actually looks like all the fix would consist of is giving me a new B key... the only part that SEEMS to be broken is one of the clips on the underside of the actual key (which is just a small, flat, square of plastic with 2 clips to hold the key down). I will keep you guys posted when I get back a little bit later this afternoon.
  13. 1848 thread starter macrumors newbie

    May 20, 2006
    The guys at the Apple store @ Mall at Millenia Orlando replaced my MacBook with hardly any questions. They took it to a genius, the genius declared 'yes this key has fallen off' and they let me exchange my 5 day old MacBook for a brand new one. In regards to the 'moo' i recieved the response 'moo? what moo? what does it sound like'... in all likelyhood theyre trained to play dumb on that issue. In any case, I'm typing this on my new MAcBook, and I'm happy.
  14. stefan15 macrumors regular

    Oct 2, 2005
    Man Apple's reputation is just getting shredded!
  15. 1848 thread starter macrumors newbie

    May 20, 2006
    Apple definately made things right and mistakes do happen. Not many of the happy owners get on a make posts about how trouble free their system is and what a great time theyre havin with it.... because theyre too busy enjoying their great system. My new MacBook doesnt have any problems, there is no moo, and I'm havin a great time with it. For anyone out there on the fence my advice is: BUY ONE! Don't worry about problems, if you get a dud, just take it back to apple and get another.
  16. BKKloppenborg macrumors regular

    May 2, 2005
    La Mesa, Ca
    I still don't mind dealing with them even though in last 1 year

    Brand new Ipod Died after 1 day, had to exchange it. (No probelms)

    Brand new Apple Powerbook 1 year ago got it in mail turned it on DIED (Exchanged it)

    So even if Apple has come issues, I still don't mind it as long as they keep their good return policy/Exchange policy.

    Plus try dealing with Onkyo USA :mad: *&#&(*@&*($&@(*$&@(*$ Sorry lol
  17. Ryan5505 macrumors regular

    Apr 12, 2006
    Wet powerbook

    Last year I purchased a PB 1.33 my first mac. As I was taking my book bag out of my car the powerbook fell out of my bag and into a puddle about 2 inches deep. I only owned the laptop for five days. I let the laptop dry for about 12 hours and then tried to boot up, the screen flashed and then nothing.
    I went to the apple store and said I woke up and the machine would not boot up. After an hour they told me that they had found water in the machine and it would be a minimum of $900 for a deeper repair, to replace the airport card, dc board and processor.

    I then conctacted apple care through email and stated the situation. The next day I had a reply that my new powerbook 1.5 would be arriving the next day and to send the old one back to them.

    If I can distroy a powerbook with water, I am sure you can exchange your macbook for a missing key.

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