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New Macbook Pro 14" and 16" WiFi6 Spec?

idark77

idark77

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The new MBP 14" and 16" support WiFi 6 802.11ax wireless networking but I cannot find any specification details and nobody seems to discuss about it... The M1 MBP WiFi only supports 2x2 MIMO 802.11ax at 80MHz bandwidth so 1200Mbps max speed rate.
  • Do the new 2021 MBP still use a 2x2 80MHz MIMO 802.11ax WiFi?
  • Or do they support 160MHz bandwidth for 2400Mbps speed rate?
I wait the first tests to know more about it.
Pls let me know if you get more info.
 
i think they respect the tradition and will be 3x3
But again, we have to wait to receive the devices
 
Got here via a Google search while trying to find the answer to the same question... no dice
 
Does anyone know what the regular M1 MBP has or M1 MBA? I'm assuming it would be same or similar.
 
Up to now there are no WiFi6 cards with more than 2x2 Spatial Streams on the market but for example the Intel AX200 ($20 card) supports 160MHz bandwidth (speed link up to 2400Mbps).
I expect that the new 2021 MBP mounts at least a 2x2 WiFi6 card that supports 160MHz bandwidth and not just 80MHz like the old one...
 
I chatted with Apple Customer Support and they don’t know… :rolleyes:
No comment, I wait the usual Teardown.
 
Apple uses Broadcom and Broadcom only supports 160MHz on their 6E chipset.

Since M1 MacBook Pro doesn't have 6E, we know it doesn't support 160MHz.

www.broadcom.com

BCM4389

Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.0 combo chip designed for ultra-low power mobile device applications
www.broadcom.com www.broadcom.com
 
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Just setting it up now. Using a UniFi WiFi 6 LR that is capable for 160mhz and 4x4. The theoretical max speed I’m seeing are the same as the rest of the M1 line up. I got a M1 Max 16”.

I can dig deeper after fully set up but looks like the new MacBook Pro won’t be getting an faster speeds than iPhones, iPads or rest of M1 line up. Sorry guys.
 
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Would have been nice if they at least expanded the current capabilities for Wi-Fi 6. Like 160mhz and 4x4. Or matched the prior MacBook Pros at 3x3.
Pretty much the same capacity as all other current apple devices.
 
maxsquared said:
Nah, all of the AX (wifi 6) chipsets are 2x2, but some support 160mhz, in theory it's double the speed as the one Apple uses. so 2400 mpbs

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He talked about intel macs. Those are indeed 3*3 .

So you're saying that unless it has 160mhz we won't be able to have better speeds than the M1 low endmacs ? Since I think it's confirmed the M1 pro don't have 160 bands ,IG we won't reach any higher than 1200(theorical even,cuz in my MBA M1 i reach 800-900mbps ,while using a windows laptop with 3*3 i had 1300.... honestly doesn't sound right for a high end laptop
 
0089294 said:
He talked about intel macs. Those are indeed 3*3 .

So you're saying that unless it has 160mhz we won't be able to have better speeds than the M1 low endmacs ? Since I think it's confirmed the M1 pro don't have 160 bands ,IG we won't reach any higher than 1200(theorical even,cuz in my MBA M1 i reach 800-900mbps ,while using a windows laptop with 3*3 i had 1300.... honestly doesn't sound right for a high end laptop
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OK, misread it... But all the Intel Macs uses AC (wifi 5), but all AX (wifi 6) laptops uses 2x2, there is one 3x3 AX chipset is available, just no one use it. Older Intel Macs with 3x3 was on AC (wifi 5) and it has the same theoretical speed of 1300 (433*3) mbps.

Now that it's confirmed that it's AX 2x2 80mhz only, then it's the same as MBA M1, speed up to 1300 (667*2) mbps theatrical speed, and you are quite lucky if you are getting real-world speed of 800-900 mbps, I can only get around 700 on a 1 gb connection.
 
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