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New MacBook Pro 2019 16" already has 41 cycles
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Open box normally means it was used and returned within the return period. Now saying that, 41 cycles is pretty high in a typical return period (2 weeks, for example).
But that's the risk in buying open box.
Open boxed usually does mean used and different retailers have different criteria for how they clean up and classify their merchandise for resale. Apple does a refurbishment process with their hardware which pretty much is the best for peace of mind when it comes to buying used devices, and that process includes a new battery.
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Is a cycle count of 41 even worth worrying about? I don't need brand new, just a good laptop that will last me a while. Thanks!
As long as it's damage free I wouldn't necessarily worry about it, but it wasn't listed honestly. 41 battery cycles is a decent amount of usage and it should have been listed as used. With that being said if you got a good deal on it and it is damage free then you are fine.
Go to "about this Mac" or get the serial number off of the box. Search "check my Apple warranty" and type in the serial number on their site and it will tell you what the warranty status is.
Huh. You used to be able to buy AppleCare anytime within the first year. Looks like now only within 60 days. I’d be quite wary of keeping it if it was outside the AppleCare period.
For comparison, I bought my current MBP 13 brand new from Apple on Feb 15th of this year. I use it every day and it has a cycle count of 31. I'd say my use is moderate. I think 41 cycles is fine, but maybe the term "open box" was a bit liberal in describing the condition.
AppleCare was within a year. Now what they sell is AppleCare+. That cover accidental damage in addition to extending the warranty so has a shorter enrollment window.
I bought a Refurbished 16" MacBook Pro from Apple. After I set it up, I checked the battery with coconut battery app and found out my machine was 6 months old and had 96% max charge and 4 cycles. I was a little surprised it was this old. To some this is worth it, but I'm not bleeding edge, and hold on to my stuff. I ultimately bit the bullet for a new one because of the battery. My current Macbook Pro is almost 7 years old. It has 275 cycles and 95% battery capacity. Knowing this, for a few hundred less was NOT worth it to me. My .02. I will say tho, it is a beautiful machine. LOVE the updates. The keyboard is awesome!
I posted this on other thread but I thought I'd ask again here. Has anyone bought a new MBP and found that there's no "pull" tab on the wrapper on the box?
I might be a bit paranoid here but I have one strange question. When I unboxed the MBP it was fully sealed but did not have the tab to pull off the wrapper? Can this be right? Do some come with a tab and others without? I bought the 1TB model? If you watch unboxing on Youtube there's a tab on the wrapper that you pull. Mine didn't have one? Any ideas?
I might be a bit paranoid here but I have one strange question. When I unboxed the MBP it was fully sealed but did not have the tab to pull off the wrapper? Can this be right? Do some come with a tab and others without? I bought the 1TB model? If you watch unboxing on Youtube there's a tab on the wrapper that you pull. Mine didn't have one? Any ideas?
I managed to look into the SSD, and it had 68 hours and 4TB of write activity. I don't understand how it could have 68 hours of SSD activity when 41 cycles should be about 440 hours of battery time, let alone the time the computer would've been plugged in.
Not every battery cycle needs to go all the way to 0, I get one cycle when I drain 50% or may be even less. Never bothered to fully qualify. Also, if you run heavy duty stuff (loading CPU or graphic card), your battery life is no where near 10 hours. It is possible to get many battery cycles in 68 hours. 41 is bit surprising since one would have to basically be trying - run some high load and charge when sleeping. Seems like someone was testing high load situation with it.
If you got 50% drain counted as 1 cycle, then there was another drain till 50%, which your laptop didn't count as a cycle. So basically when you discharge your laptop from 100 to 50, plug in till 100, again discharge till 50, it will be counted as 1 cycle.
OP, 4TB of data written is too much for a 1-2 month laptop. It looks like it was doing all that SSD benchmarks with geekbench, cinebench and all that stuff.
But you can’t buy regular AppleCare anymore, right? So it’s unfortunate that they lowered the time limit.
Thanks for all your helps and insights, everyone. To wrap this up, if you received the laptop I've outlined above, with a one year warranty, and got a really good deal on it ($1870 instead of $2210 teacher price), would you be satisfied to keep it and try your luck that it'll serve you well over 2-3 years? A bargain is only a bargain if it doesn't cause a huge headache down the road.
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
I assume they lowered the limited because the accidental coverage bit. Phones and iPads have had the 60 day window for AppleCare+ purchases for years.
At least you don't have to bring it in for a physical inspection to get AC+ any more. I had to do that because I forget to order it when I ordered an iPad. Once I received the iPad I had to bring it into a store. I took the unopened Apple package to the store and opened it right in front of them. Only then would they sell me AC+.
If you don’t detect any problems and it’s eligible for AppleCare, I’d buy AppleCare and be done with it.
I purchased a MPB 15in 2018 last year. It was sold to me as an "open Box". I think it had 20 something cycles. I called Apple and said I had an open box and wanted to purchase Applecare+. They said wait a minute and then came back and let me purchase Applecare+. Over the last 8 years I have done this more than once. It would be worth a try. That would give you peace of mind on your laptop.
I wouldn't try any luck. Cause there is no luck involved. Even if you will continue previous harsh usage further, it will take you 10+ years to kill that SSD. I have calculated upon your data of 4TB written data/per month. So for this price you can't complain and the bet was worth it. I mean, i wouldn't headache my mind about this no further. Everything is fine. My laptop was burning at 102C degrees for many hours without even proper ventilation while gaming/heating my body, and it still works. Only display hinge broke, which has no relation to CPU, SSD which was stressed.
One more reason to -- next time -- buy an Apple-refurbished MPB...!