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I love the new keyboard. It looks like something Apple would have released in 2007 in the best way possible. It’s something fresh and it works well. If only it didn’t have a notch. 😭
 
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Does anyone have a space gray colored macbook from 2016 or so? I read that the silver color may last longer because it is the base metal, while the space gray is an coating on top of it the bare aluminum. Curious how the coating has held up for 5 years.

I keep my macbooks for a LONG time so wanted something durable and ordered silver for this reason. With the ugly black keyboard though I think I would have preferred space gray.
 
That’s exactly what I was hoping for as well. They keyboards now wear almost immediately and after just a few weeks start shining, especially on the space bar. Is really annoying and I‘ve been putting a clear skin on my keys for a while now.
Yeah I try to baby my computers but the keys look like I’m mistreating the keyboard!
 
It almost looks like the keyboard is a single unit that drops into the shell from underneath as opposed to just the keys poking up through holes machined in the case. Perhaps this then makes it a little more resistant to dust and such getting in a fouling up the keyboard. Yes, total speculation but was the first thought that came to mind.
 
Given that they only ever had the Touch bar on a MBP, it was destined to fail.

It may have stood a better chance if they'd released an external keyboard with it on as well, but I'd imagine they probably have wanted sonething like $399 or more.

It's a shame because it could have been a contender but Apple never moved on from the base idea and they were saddled with it for a while.

Time to move on.
Very fair point, thinking about it, if things like streamdeck or preconfigured keystrokes keypads or DIY keyboxes are quite prominent, then this idea could have been pushed next level… either embedded on a magic keyboard (above the function keys and all) or even on the trackpad maybe? Just throwing some random ideas here…
 
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Is the black surface around the keys plastic, glass, metal, or what?
From Apple's website "the new MacBook Pro also comes with a Magic Keyboard that is set in a double-anodized black well, which elegantly highlights the backlit glyphs on the keys, and features a full-height function row"..... so my guess is anodised aluminium...
 
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Does anyone have a space gray colored macbook from 2016 or so? I read that the silver color may last longer because it is the base metal, while the space gray is an coating on top of it the bare aluminum. Curious how the coating has held up for 5 years.

I keep my macbooks for a LONG time so wanted something durable and ordered silver for this reason. With the ugly black keyboard though I think I would have preferred space gray.
Yes I have a space grey late 2016 MBP. No issues with daily use.
 
It almost looks like the keyboard is a single unit that drops into the shell from underneath as opposed to just the keys poking up through holes machined in the case. Perhaps this then makes it a little more resistant to dust and such getting in a fouling up the keyboard. Yes, total speculation but was the first thought that came to mind.
Definitely still a unibody.
 
Why is "All-Black Design" significant? Previous model's keyboard was also black.

2020 Macbook Pro 13 keyboard:

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2021 Macbook Pro 16 keyboard:

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Is it me or there’s something retro vintage on this 2021 model? Some of the curved close up shots and angles were already feeling a bit like that… this top and bottom instant comparison makes it look so. Can’t point my finger on it, it feels less gracious, maybe just have to get used to it.
 
It almost looks like the keyboard is a single unit that drops into the shell from underneath as opposed to just the keys poking up through holes machined in the case. Perhaps this then makes it a little more resistant to dust and such getting in a fouling up the keyboard. Yes, total speculation but was the first thought that came to mind.
You're probably right! And remember when a keyboard had to be replaced, Apple had to replace the entire top portion, including touchpad and speakers. I suspect this really was a cost-saving design, intended to mitigate their cost of replacement keyboards. By the way I did order one; but at the same time I think I may be right about the reason re: the keyboard. Also there's no logo-light on the lid; but that's not very relevant.
 
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Removal of Touch Bar is frustrating (for me). I was hoping it would be larger / more useful. Regular function keys are so antique in appearance, though I know a subset likes to use them.

Just wished Apple provided the option for customers to BTO one or the other. Use the bar on a few apps I love, and the function keys would be nice when using terminal.
I really like my Touch Bar, so this is sad for me. Having context-sensitive controls on the keyboard is a huge productivity benefit if you can properly configure them. The problem, in my opinion, is that Apple never gave us the tools to make the TouchBar as useful as it could be.
 
Two strikes against this for me:

- I want the touch bar

- The black on black doesn’t work for me. I like it the other way better. This looks like a step backwards in time. I don’t like that at all.

I am getting kind of tired of Apple releasimg things as the great new thing, only to can them a few years down the road. Hard to trust a new feature with a company that does things like that.
 
I love the new keyboard. It looks like something Apple would have released in 2007 in the best way possible. It’s something fresh and it works well. If only it didn’t have a notch. 😭
How can you tell without using it for a while? Keyboards from Apple have had some issues in the past.
 
I really like my Touch Bar, so this is sad for me. Having context-sensitive controls on the keyboard is a huge productivity benefit if you can properly configure them. The problem, in my opinion, is that Apple never gave us the tools to make the TouchBar as useful as it could be.
Sadly I think many of us saw this coming. Like 3D Touch, it didn't get much attention after debut, and most developers didn't tap into it, nor did the UI Kit for it expand much. I use windows computers with much bigger lower touchscreen controls and it is super handy when editing video on either platform.

Just wish we had the option for it still.
 
I don’t think it’s ugly and I don’t see how anything solid black could be considered ugly but well, there ya go. I will say however it’s a bit of a shock to the system in that it doesn’t seem very Apple. Then again we’ve had the aluminum background around the keys for so long it’s burned in folks brains and seeing anything else appears odd.
It will take some getting used to, as one advantage of the color contrast on the existing model is that each key appears distinct.
 
“While some users are disappointed that Apple removed the Touch Bar,…”

What users are disappointed? Link?
 
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