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I guarantee you haven't used the new rMBP in the flesh. Guaranteed.

It's an engineering marvel.

It's a steaming pile of junk with the limited engineering effort devoted to it aimed in an asinine direction (thinness and an emoji bar). It is a toy machine aimed at people who would rather be using their iPhone anyway.
 
This image shows the R9 370x to be faster than the AMD Pro 455. I guess the reviewer is cherry picking results to make the claim that the AMD Pro 455 is faster.
The difference is that the 2015 15" MBP was run at a nominal resolution of 1440 x 900, whereas the 2016 15" MBP is run by default at a nominal resolution of 1680×1050 (this means internally the GPU on the 2015 model has to render a 2880 x 1800 canvas, whereas on the 2016 model it has render a 3360 x 2100 canvas).
 
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What? The Radeon Pro is NOT DP 1.3 compliant?
I thought it's DP 1.3/1.4 compliant and supports HDMI 2.0b/HDCP 2.2.

If it's compliant, there is no need for TB3 as far as monitors are concerned.
 
Sorry, I didn't realize that for you a 17" 0.88" thick 4k computer weighing 7.8 pounds was only portable on wheels for you. I thought it was a pretty light and sleek machine for a 17" when I saw it.

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro
The 14 inch -> http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade

4.3 pounds, .7 inches, GTX 1060, 4K display, aluminum body

There is probably a lighter 15" machine with the 1080 if you feel like googling, but then what would be the point of that much power on such a tiny screen?
What on earth does power have to do with screen size?

What quality can it reasonably play Heroes of the Storm or League of Legends?
You can play League with a toaster, so it'll be fine. Heroes of the Storm should be okay too.
 
It's a steaming pile of junk with the limited engineering effort devoted to it aimed in an asinine direction (thinness and an emoji bar). It is a toy machine aimed at people who would rather be using their iPhone anyway.

You will not find a laptop with those specs, at that build quality, with that battery life, at that thinness. You conveniently ignore that what Apple do (the best possible compromise of the above criteria) is unmatched in the industry.

Your rhetoric of 'limited engineering effort' only further highlights the fact that you haven't seen it in the flesh. It's a marvel.

And for the thousandth time: if you'd rather a thicker laptop with better hardware specs, they're out there. But it's not with Apple. It never has been and it never will.
 
What? The Radeon Pro is NOT DP 1.3 compliant?
I thought it's DP 1.3/1.4 compliant and supports HDMI 2.0b/HDCP 2.2.

If it's compliant, there is no need for TB3 as far as monitors are concerned.
It is always Thunderbolt's fault since TB1.
 
whats that? some good news about the new macbooks? I dont believe it.
Oh, don't worry, in no time at all there will be people making this out to be a bad news story. Oh wait, already happening.

Upgrading the graphics in any shipping laptop has always seemed a no-brainer to me. Now that I have had the chance to research the cost of PCEe 3 SSDs I am glad I maxed out that as well. I am sure they will go down in price but the SSD may not be replaceable in the 2016 MBP and Apple is charging a lot less than the competition, even cheaper than Amazon.
 
I remember a few years ago when, on this forum, there were some (including some editors - not me) claiming that dedicated GPUs were going to be a thing of the past because Intel was doing so well catching up.

Looks like dedicated graphics still have some life in them.
 
So you suggest, this computer should have TB3 ports that offer DP 1.2 and then separate mDP ports that offer DP 1.4?
I suggest that you should have never replaced DP connectors with TB connectors until Intel does a proper job.
 
This image shows the R9 370x to be faster than the AMD Pro 455. I guess the reviewer is cherry picking results to make the claim that the AMD Pro 455 is faster.

ars-2016-macbook-pro-benchmark.jpg
There is a problem that wasn't in the OP. The new MacBook is rendering at a higher resolution vs. the 2015 version. It 3360×2100 vs 2880x1800. If you look at off screen benchmarks the new MacBook GPU is much faster.
 
What? The Radeon Pro is NOT DP 1.3 compliant?
I thought it's DP 1.3/1.4 compliant and supports HDMI 2.0b/HDCP 2.2.

If it's compliant, there is no need for TB3 as far as monitors are concerned.
Yeah well but then you had TB3 ports for fast storage and separate (m)DP ports for high-res displays. The vast majority of complaints about the new MBPs are actually requests to add additional hardware, and if you followed all requests you'd something like a kitchen sink with 15 ports, 150 W power supply and/or three different case versions.
 
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I suggest that you should have never replaced DP connectors with TB connectors until Intel does a proper job.
Yeah, I know, Apple should never remove any port if there some usage scenario where it would be of use.
 
It's great!

[if you ignore everything made by any other manufacturer]

Johnson & Johnson Sulphuric Acid Eye Drops! Less acidic than any other eye drops!

[any other eye drops made by made by Johnson & Johnson]
 
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Apple pumped up the price by $500 USD. You are only paying for the new form factor, not really a practical improvement in performance. If the form factor is worth that much to you then fine.

form factor, improved performance, brighter screen, improved track pad, double the storage, touch bar. if you want the entry level new pro, which adds all of those improvements with the exception of the touch bar, it's exactly the same price as the previous 256GB model - $1499. just repeating 'pumped up the price by $500' simply isn't like-for-like accurate.
 
i love the misleading title for this article...

you have to scroll and read to find out they're not faster
 
I still don't get Apple's strategy.

Do they expect all Mac Pro desktop users to upgrade to this (hideous) MacBook Pro w Touch Bar + LG monitor combination? :confused:
 
Unless I'm editing video, I've never found much use for multiple displays using macOS as I started using it around the time Spaces came out. Since I can so easily switch between these work spaces, it just makes more sense to use one display hooked up to a MacBook or the single display on my iMac. Otherwise having all these displays with borders between them gets confusing and I'm always having to move my head around. I don't edit video often enough to warrant two displays, and honestly for the few times I need or want another external display, Duet Display running on my iPad does a great job.

I'm interested to hear the use cases for people who need six displays who don't work in the financial or film industry?
 
To be fair, Macs are not gaming laptops. Have you seen the Razer reviews on Amazon? Over 50% of the reviews are 1 star, compared to the MBP reviews, which are dominated by 5 stars. Sure, you can create a big, heavy, burning hot, plastic box with huge bezels around the screen, and 2 hours of battery life, but it's not going to be loved by mainstream users. Gaming laptops have a niche market, but Apple is not competing there.
 
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