I was thinking the same thing, would be cool to be able to replace just the cell vs the entire battery
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New MacBook Pros Have Battery Pull Tabs for Easier Do-it-Yourself Battery Replacements, Says iFixit
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What goes around comes around. We return to a semblance of sanity when people can actually change the batteries on their electronics. It's a good thing.
people should get more usage than than.
my MacBook air 2010 has the original same battery which get 2 hours
4 without internets.
they do make great long lasting batteries!
Yup, but the main benefit is reliability.
Our big APC UPS backup systems at work each use two strings of batteries, in parallel with diodes between them so they can't charge into each other.
This results in high reliability since one string can fail completely and the UPS will still function with half the runtime.
Doing this in the new MBP would be a no-brainer and vastly increase the reliability of the battery system.
2019-2020 MBPs have glued-in batteries. Takes me an hour to do these repairs at work.
Good for Longevity, but let’s remember that most third-party batteries are garbage. Don’t be cheap, Exercise caution ⚠️
I heard a rumor that this new keyboard design also lets them replace just the keyboard and not the entire top case.
If true... that will be helpful for repairs too.
Too bad the Butterfly keyboards didn't have that... ?
Apple shifting to more repairable devices should scare other manufacturers of equipment. These beasts are going to bang around in the second hand market for a decade or even more going from first user to second, third and fourth user. If Apple can get some subscription revenue from the user at that point, they might very well continue to support the devices on an OS level. I'm sure that used iPhones are taking market share from cheap Android phone manufacturers right now (with knock on effect of everyone who wants the more available data or subscription fees from Android users). Old MacBooks will take market share from cheap laptop manufacturers. The battery is the one part that must fail, but if that can be dealt with relatively cheaply, that helps extend life a ton.
Apparently Apple repair techs weren’t fans of glued batteries either.
I feel the same way about camera batteries. First-party or nothing.
I bought a couple cheap 3rd-party batteries for my Canon 70D DSLR. They were crap. I ended up buying a 2nd real Canon battery and used both of those first. And the cheapos last.
When I bought my Sony A7III... I bought a 2nd real Sony battery. I figured I just spent $2,000 on a camera... I can swing the extra $80 for an official battery.
Luckily the Sony FZ100 batteries last a looong time. I shot photo/video for an event starting at 9am and I didn't have to switch batteries until 3pm. So my two Sony batteries can cover an entire day for me.
I would have gone through 3 or 4 batteries on my old Canon. (especially with the cheap ones)
So yeah... for something important and expensive like cameras or computers... don't cheap out with crappy batteries. It ain't worth it.
I would assume (but don't know for sure) that the top-case and keyboard/etc would separated from the battery at a factory somewhere and the case/keyboard/etc refurbished for replacement pars, as opposed to just being trashed.
Guys, hold on. We have no confirmation yet if there is a warning/compatibility issue once you turn the machine back on after battery replacement by the user.
For all we know, the ease of servicing may have been intended for Apple repair employees.
For all we know, the ease of servicing may have been intended for Apple repair employees.
If there is one item in your laptop guaranteed to have a relatively short lifespan, it's the battery. I replaced one in a 2013 15" MBP a couple years ago with one of iFixit's batteries. What a pain.
The glued in battery is pure evil. This is the kind of thing that makes me chuckle when Apple talks about their so-called environmental commitment. It's more about marketing than anything. "It's in our DNA." Yeah, sure. Okay.
Probably not. Intel Macs were released in January of 2006. Snow Leopard was released in October of 2009 and while it officially dropped PowerPC support, Apple still officially supported the previous version of the OS (this was before they transitioned to yearly releases). Lion was released in July of 2011 which would have technically ended PowerPC support.
PowerPC received the latest OS for almost four years after the Intel release and was officially supported for about five and a half.
With the yearly release cycle, I suspect we have at least 2 more and likely 3-4. Apple doesn't seem to have a clear support policy on older macOS releases (if they do, please link me). But it seems as if the previous 2 versions remain supported in terms of security updates and such. Point is, unless Apple tags some version of macOS to receive some kind of long term security support, Intel support isn't going away for a few more versions.
There are way more Intel Macs out there than there were ever PowerPC Macs.
The glued in battery is pure evil. This is the kind of thing that makes me chuckle when Apple talks about their so-called environmental commitment. It's more about marketing than anything. "It's in our DNA." Yeah, sure. Okay.
Probably not. Intel Macs were released in January of 2006. Snow Leopard was released in October of 2009 and while it officially dropped PowerPC support, Apple still officially supported the previous version of the OS (this was before they transitioned to yearly releases). Lion was released in July of 2011 which would have technically ended PowerPC support.
PowerPC received the latest OS for almost four years after the Intel release and was officially supported for about five and a half.
With the yearly release cycle, I suspect we have at least 2 more and likely 3-4. Apple doesn't seem to have a clear support policy on older macOS releases (if they do, please link me). But it seems as if the previous 2 versions remain supported in terms of security updates and such. Point is, unless Apple tags some version of macOS to receive some kind of long term security support, Intel support isn't going away for a few more versions.
There are way more Intel Macs out there than there were ever PowerPC Macs.
Notch aside, it's like Apple has finally decided to do what everyone has been asking for, for years.
I wonder why the sudden about-face on so many consumer-hostile practices.
I wonder why the sudden about-face on so many consumer-hostile practices.
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How great is this? So along with bringing back some very useful ports so that especially "road warriors" working Mac people may be able to ditch the dongle/hub, Apple has also built more customer-friendly utility INSIDE the box too. That's very impressive! I hope the overall score shows much improvement over the path everything seemed to be going in the recent past.
I have done two of these (own two 2012 MBP). It takes about 30 minutes working very carefully/slowly. WTF did Apple do ?? More reason we need r2r laws. Anyway I have always been an advocate for not buying products which do not support battery replacement as this is a huge, huge impact on the environment. Glad to see Apple changing its way re: MBP. Also glad to see some celebrities bringing back wired headphones as a "fashion statement". Wish they would call Apple out on what is one of the greatest consumer-disposable wastes ever -- Airpods (where is Ed Begley when you need him). I guess a real-world, factual enivro piece on TikTok does not sell as well as "fashion" does. Well, whatever I guess as we need to focus on consumer-disposable products perfected to-date by Tim Apple.
2012 battery replacement link:
MacBook Pro 13" Unibody Mid 2012 Battery Replacement
Use this guide to replace a worn-out battery. If your battery is swollen, take appropriate precautions.
www.ifixit.com
That was about what they charged me last year for my 2014 MBP battery replacement (full top case $575) in the US. It was fully out of warranty then. I had previously had it replaced under apple care warranty and they covered it with no charge. In both cases the problem was battery swelling and causing the mechanical trackpad to stop clicking.
I think that $100-199 might be for the newer Airs where the batteries are separate from the top case.
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we did, i relentlessly complained from 2018 to recently over apple's
well
" failures!"
then i would state how much the macbook air form 2010 is great because
and list the reasons why.
apple does listen and changes things like easy battery removal that will help them as well
Good news. I had to replace a water damaged battery on my macbook and ended up turning canned air upside down and freezing the old glue to eventually pry the battery out. It was a pain but it worked better than the "floss" method I also saw people using.
Same for my 2018! It was crazy. Thankfully it still had AppleCare.