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New MacBook Pros Include Improved Thermal System That Apple Says You'll Rarely Need Thanks to Apple Silicon
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I’ve seen some people talk about how putting bigger fans in this new MacBook Pro is useless, since Apple Silicon doesn’t get as hot as Intel.
To those people, just stop.
Sure, when doing every day tasks like browsing the web and checking email, the thing won’t turn into a portable oven like the current Intel versions.
But load up a couple dozen audio tracks in logic, and those fans will quickly come in handy.
Even the M1 iMac, MacBook Pro, and especially the MacBook Air can get quite warm when pushed.
Thermals are still extremely important, and I’m happy to see Apple focus on them.
Not to mention, extreme heat can decrease the longevity of your computer. If you’re buying this MacBook Pro in hopes that it will last you a good 5 to 8 years, you’re gonna want some good thermals
To those people, just stop.
Sure, when doing every day tasks like browsing the web and checking email, the thing won’t turn into a portable oven like the current Intel versions.
But load up a couple dozen audio tracks in logic, and those fans will quickly come in handy.
Even the M1 iMac, MacBook Pro, and especially the MacBook Air can get quite warm when pushed.
Thermals are still extremely important, and I’m happy to see Apple focus on them.
Not to mention, extreme heat can decrease the longevity of your computer. If you’re buying this MacBook Pro in hopes that it will last you a good 5 to 8 years, you’re gonna want some good thermals
Intel can't hear anything over all of the whirring fans.
Good to hear this. I assume this was about how these worked.
Now my only concern is we are down 2 efficiency cores on these machines. So, when the 2 cores are tied up doing “light work” and you throw just a little more “light work” it’s way— I presume more power hunger performance cores will be required to step in, even though the work wouldn’t normally necessitate it (understandably so).
Yes, this is not a great picture. Is it from Apple? The actual airflow will not spin like this but I see no reason to disbelieve Apple's overall claim. The lower end M1 MBP by all accounts very rarely needs fans on.
I don't get the complaints about the notch. It's unused space right now on most PCs, even the new Surface Pro Studio with a 3:2 display. Only the standard Mac menu bar will appear there, which leaves the rest of the screen available for applications. Yes, cameras and sensors can be placed behind displays now, but that has drawbacks too.
Real shame they didn't do this same thing for the Intel chips....starting to feel like they sandbaged the i7/i9 MBP's.
Classic Apple marketing to tell us we didn't need something, but we should still be excited because they made that thing better.
Intel getting lazy is what sandbagged the i7/i9 MBPs.
Could be something like that. Surely if they engineered the flow, they got the graphic right. Was just bending my brain looking at it.
you know the extra cpu/gpu cores are gonna be hot when you and easily visually see the legs on the macbook renders. i know that heat doesn't grow linearly with performance, but they pushed this design of chips to the limit to which this laptop can handle.
i'm curious about the 128 core GPU that is rumored for the mac pro. i have to assume that it'll need a desktop level cooler like the one from the current intel mac pro or what you typically see in PC gaming computers.
i'm curious about the 128 core GPU that is rumored for the mac pro. i have to assume that it'll need a desktop level cooler like the one from the current intel mac pro or what you typically see in PC gaming computers.
One problem with Dark mode is that the menu bar remains light, even though the dock takes on a dark appearance. Even in MacOS Monterey. This needs to be fixed instead of telling people they are using the “wrong” desktop background.
Not much to be honest. Unused part of the chip is powered down so if you have the maxed out 32 cores GPU M1 Max and only use it to browser Mac Rumors, only the Efficiency Cores are turned on and the majority of the GPU is shutdown too.
RAM does eat more battery the more capacity you put in but not to the point of noticeable drop. Low power RAM sips very little energy compare to normal ones, especially with binning and tuning.
NVME drives only eat more power when you push them with heavy read-write task, they have power saving features too.
Be honest. You're never going to buy a Mac. You're just here to complain.
Fair concern, although at least with my M1 mini, the efficiency cores are never really loaded down in any real sense. So there’s headroom there.
The other thing to consider is that for work to run on the efficiency cores, it has to be flagged as “background” to the thread scheduler. If it isn’t, it won’t run on the efficiency cores. And if something is marked background like this, then even if the efficiency cores are loaded down, the OS may just decide to let the work wait for an efficiency core rather than move it to performance core unless the scheduler gets backed up and needs to play catch up. Work at that QoS really doesn’t need to be done on the performance cores at all.
It is from Apple. It’s not a great illustration of the physics, but does show the inlets and outlets. The iMac Pro illustrations weren’t that much better, IIRC.
It's not silly at all! I agree. My work Dell XPS fans run even at idle, essentially, and very loudly under load. It's a very good machine for what it is, Windows and all, but I simply can't wait to receive the 14" MBP I ordered.
Awww...I used to use the white noise from the fans to go to sleep when encoding with Handbrake. Always made me have dreams like I was flying.
