New macbook pro's still hot?

MacBH928

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I have a macbook unibody from 2008 and it gets super hot when playing videogames or running ripping DVD's.

I just want to know if the newer macbooks (rMBP) with the SSD are cooler now?

Is it still very CPU heavy to rip DVDs? Run Parallels?

When I say Hot, my CPU once got up to 90C/194F . It usually is always around 72C/161F
 

Intell

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Macbooks run hot because they do things. Even the new ones generate heat when doing stuff. Their maximum temperatures regularly hover around 100C/212F.
 

Altemose

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I have a macbook unibody from 2008 and it gets super hot when playing videogames or running ripping DVD's.

I just want to know if the newer macbooks (rMBP) with the SSD are cooler now?

Is it still very CPU heavy to rip DVDs? Run Parallels?

When I say Hot, my CPU once got up to 90C/194F . It usually is always around 72C/161F
The newer models are much cooler but as Intell said, if being taxed they can become very hot. My Intel MBP Mid-2012 runs very cool but if I open iMovie for any sort of work it regularly heats up.
 

SVTmaniac

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I think MacBooks feel warmer because of their Aluminum body. It transfers the heat more than plastic does. This helps keep the internals of the computer cooler, but can make it feel hotter on the outside.
 

T5BRICK

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I think MacBooks feel warmer because of their Aluminum body. It transfers the heat more than plastic does. This helps keep the internals of the computer cooler, but can make it feel hotter on the outside.
That is certainly part of it, but MacBook Pros tend to run hot. The slim profile doesn't really lend itself to great airflow.
 

yjchua95

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They are as hot as it gets.
Any hotter and you could burn yourself and this is not meant as a joke.
I'll have to respectfully disagree here.

Under regular load (Safari, Pages, Preview, Spotify and Messages), my 15" late-2013 (2.6/16/1TB/750M) never goes above 60ºC.

It's only when I watch a Flash video, it goes to around 60-65ºC.

Average temperatures are around 45-55ºC.

When you're taxing the system (like gaming or doing heavy rendering), the fans will definitely spool up like a Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine and the temperatures will go past the 90ºC mark, but it'll stay around there. I've never had my machine go past the 97ºC.

Even under high temperatures, my rMBP's processor never throttles (according to the Macoh tests provided by qnxor - a fellow MR member).
 

Meister

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I'll have to respectfully disagree here.

Under regular load (Safari, Pages, Preview, Spotify and Messages), my 15" late-2013 (2.6/16/1TB/750M) never goes above 60ºC.

It's only when I watch a Flash video, it goes to around 60-65ºC.

Average temperatures are around 45-55ºC.

When you're taxing the system (like gaming or doing heavy rendering), the fans will definitely spool up like a Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine and the temperatures will go past the 90ºC mark, but it'll stay around there. I've never had my machine go past the 97ºC.

Even under high temperatures, my rMBP's processor never throttles (according to the Macoh tests provided by qnxor - a fellow MR member).
i meant hottness on the outside. I cannot leave mine on my bare skin without pain.
I am not complaining though, since winters are cold here :D
 

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The newer models are much cooler but as Intell said, if being taxed they can become very hot. My Intel MBP Mid-2012 runs very cool but if I open iMovie for any sort of work it regularly heats up.
My 2012 rMBP also runs fairly cool - around 40c, it seems many people have higher temps on the newer rMBPs. I'm not sure if that's a trend or isolated issues.

Tbh, I'm happy with my rMBP :)
 

s2mikey

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I haven't experienced any heat issues so far on my month old machine. I game, do some dev stuff, and the usual uses. Not sure what to say....?
 

Altemose

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They are as hot as it gets.
Any hotter and you could burn yourself and this is not meant as a joke.
Unless you are running a mainframe on your MacBook they should not be that hot. Ensure you are using it on a hard surface rather than an insulating surface like a pillow, bed, blanket, etc.

My 2012 rMBP also runs fairly cool - around 40c, it seems many people have higher temps on the newer rMBPs. I'm not sure if that's a trend or isolated issues.

Tbh, I'm happy with my rMBP :)
Same here for the CPU A Proximity. I have an Ivy Bridge Mid-2012 cMBP.
 

Meister

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Unless you are running a mainframe on your MacBook they should not be that hot. Ensure you are using it on a hard surface rather than an insulating surface like a pillow, bed, blanket, etc.
With basic stuff like word and safari its very cool.
If I edit photos and videos it gets boiling. Cpu temp is wiin limits though and fans turning on.
I heard a lot of people reporting this.
So you saying that this is unusual?
 

capathy21

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With basic stuff like word and safari its very cool.
If I edit photos and videos it gets boiling. Cpu temp is wiin limits though and fans turning on.
I heard a lot of people reporting this.
So you saying that this is unusual?
Mine is the same way. I started with the 13 inch air and it ran cool in most all tasks(granted I really didn't push it much). With the rMBP, it's cool with Safari and such but if I stream video on Chrome, or play even a basic game, it gets hot fast. I just figured it was the difference in cpu clock speed but it definitely isn't comfortable on my lap like the Air was.
 

Altemose

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With basic stuff like word and safari its very cool.
If I edit photos and videos it gets boiling. Cpu temp is wiin limits though and fans turning on.
I heard a lot of people reporting this.
So you saying that this is unusual?
Video and photo editing is very heat inducing still, but it is nowhere near what it was on the older machines.

You can't run a mainframe on an MBP. Mainframes are entirely different hardware as shown in these photos:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mai...Isn9oAS39IBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=995
I was saying that as a joke...
 

Hieveryone

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Yes mine gets pretty hot! The fan comes roaring on during games when I rarely play them on my MBPr
 

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That is certainly part of it, but MacBook Pros tend to run hot. The slim profile doesn't really lend itself to great airflow.
Yes, I think this is it, and it's an issue that's been happening across much of the product line for quite some time now.

Macs used to be big square boxes, which gave plenty of room for venting the heat. Then aesthetics were prioritized over reliability, and heat related problems began to be a problem.

I had a $2000+ iMac go belly up when the graphics card melted on to the motherboard, or so it was described to me by the repair tech.
 

MacBH928

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So, what is the solution? buy macbook and just use it for browsing?
I thought the newer CPUs could handle heavy usage (gaming, video editing) while remaining in reasonable heat.

I opened my laptop ones and found a cable that melted into one of the plastic pieces inside it. Thank god it didn't damage the functionality of the my macbook.

Now I do not use this macbook to game or rip dvds. But its sad to learn that 5 years technology difference and its still the same...
 

Anitramane

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If a computer goes over 80°C there’s something that needs to be fixed about it. In Apple’s case their stupid design choice and poor cooling system quality.
 

Intell

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If a computer goes over 80°C there’s something that needs to be fixed about it. In Apple’s case their stupid design choice and poor cooling system quality.
Many computers from many different manufactures regularly go about 80C/176F. It's completely normal and within Intell/AMD's ranges.
 

Anitramane

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Many computers from many different manufactures regularly go about 80C/176F. It's completely normal and within Intell/AMD's ranges.
It’s not about the silicon, it’s about the consumer. Sure, a processor could run just fine at 130°C but there are several reasons for why you don’t do so. In a laptop environment for consumers putting in a beefy processor that becomes very hot almost at the boiling point of water is not a normal way of using the processor.
Should Ts computer hit 90°C while ripping a Dvd? No it shouldn’t. Apple is at fault here for putting in a processor that becomes very hot in the laptop they put it in, so hot in fact people are questioning it. It would be better if consumer laptops had processors that only went up to a maximum 60/70°C at 100% load seeing as how it shouldn’t be hot enough to burn your skin.

It is normal for this processor to hit 90°C in the kind of laptop Apple chose to put it in, this is also caused by their low quality cooling solution. What’s not normal is to just go with the most powerful that fits the spec because of the temperatures it gives.

Consumers don’t need/should have processors in their computer who runs at 90°C and even higher. No one should. Over dimensioned cooling is a lot more normal than the just barely enough we see in apples devices today.
 

Intell

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If a consumer is dim enough to not remove a hot object from oneself, they deserve to have their gonads rendered inoperable by said hot object to prevent the passing of said user's genetic material.
 

pragmatous

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Get a laptop cooler and you'll be fine. All laptops run hot under heavy load. The macbook pro is no exception. That's just the way it is and it's called science.

So, what is the solution? buy macbook and just use it for browsing?
I thought the newer CPUs could handle heavy usage (gaming, video editing) while remaining in reasonable heat.

I opened my laptop ones and found a cable that melted into one of the plastic pieces inside it. Thank god it didn't damage the functionality of the my macbook.

Now I do not use this macbook to game or rip dvds. But its sad to learn that 5 years technology difference and its still the same...
 

556fmjoe

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Get a laptop cooler and you'll be fine. All laptops run hot under heavy load. The macbook pro is no exception. That's just the way it is and it's called science.
I've never had a laptop run as hot as my PowerBook or unibody MBP. It's not the effect of the aluminum either because the internal temps are higher. I don't think Apple's cooling system is very efficient.
 
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