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To put it another way, A18 Pro is what you’d get if you tried to make a fourth-generation M-series SoC to fill M1’s current place in the lineup (low-end 13" MacBook Air, still in production, sold via Walmart). With all the additional benefits of the A18/M4 generation you describe.

I really hope Apple are planning to support these with the latest macOS for many many years.

Otherwise, these people are getting royally fleeced.
 
> This would be the first Mac powered by an ‌iPhone‌ chip.

That's not _quite_ true!
The initial Apple Silicon dev machine (DTK) was essentially a mini powered by an A12Z
The A12Z was not an iPhone chip, that was an iPad chip. It’s also just a name, the M1 was just an A14X with a new name, so technically the A12Z was just an “M0” so it’s all arbitrary.
 
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Who is this for!
someone who wants macOS is just going to get the already quite affordable M4 or even M3/M2 MacBook Air, all which have came with 16 GB of RAM by default for the last nine months and could be found for as cheap as $650.
The people who don’t care are just going to get the iPad.
so who is this for?
It’s for everybody who wants it. It could be an entry computer for students. Or it could be a quirky, little computer with funny colors for anyone who has some ****-you money lying around. ****-you money being i-have-cash-i-don’t-need-and-will-happily-spend-it.

If it runs macOS and if it’s light enough and powerful enough to maybe write some Pages documents, set some reminders, send some mails, do some light work and if it comes in funky colors with 6 hours of battery life or so … I’ll get one.

I’m sure Apple doesn’t care who buys it if they can make it and sell it at a 30% margin.
 
Hopefully a new 12" MacBook. If so, count me in!

That 12" MacBook was the best machine Apple has ever made. It's the foundation for the entire place we are now with Apple's laptop lineup.

And such an Apple thing to do. Thing is fantastic (We can argue over the keyboard, I loved the butterfly) but was limited by what Intel could do so they set out to build their own chip that makes it work.

Think about the iPad Pro with a M4 chip. That's a huge amount of power in something with that footprint.

I'd love to see it in 10 - 12 inches.

I may buy a 9 inch UPMC this week for travel. These are not cheap devices and Apple should get back into the UPMC market. I'm sure that there are people who would like a 12 inch MacBook or 11 inch Air.

Finally (hopefully) a 5G MacBook 12!

a 13" does not make sense. It would just be another MacBook Air with lighter specs.

I needs to be a 12" MacBook. That makes sense.


If this is a 12" macbook revival, it's an insta day one buy for me.
 
I think Apple may use the A18 Pro to enable cellular option for the first time in one of their laptops.
imho Cellular will come to the upper class mbs (mb pro) first

as an option, as they do with the iPads

over time that option may then trickle down to the lower end mbs (for a mark up)
 
I'd love to see it in 10 - 12 inches.

I may buy a 9 inch UPMC this week for travel.

Note Apple won't compromise on KBD width meaning it can't get smaller than the last 12".
Well the could go thick bezel or ultrawide aspect ratio to get a <12" but I think it's more likely they would go the other way with even smaller bezels giving us a 12.5 MBTA (MacBookThinAir :p ).

Well next issue, the 12" MB was positioned above the Air at the time.

So my guess:
a) drop in replacement in the old M1 Air chassis.
b) BTO downgrade for whatever MBA is current at that time
 
I love the fact that people who haven't lived through the years of PowerPCs make shinging sentences on subsequent Macs.
The iBooks/Powerbooks and Intel MacBooks were certainly not more performant than the 12", yet we did video editing.
The tools do not make up for human abilities, even though you believe in the AI divinity.
Hehe.

My first Mac had a Motorola 68K chip in it.

Then I had a PowerMac 7500.

Then the G3 Pismo, laptop.

Then a white plastic iBook, followed by a white plastic MacBook.

Etc. etc.

My all time favourite Macs are the 2010 11" MacBook Air and my current 2020 M1 MacBook Air.

My least favorite was the 12" MacBook (for its abysmal performance), tied with the 2019 MacBook Pro (the baby one with 2 TB ports), which is the only Mac I ever sold...

The 12" MacBook was a work issued machine, and after relatively short time I started taking my - then 5 year old - 11" MBA to work instead.
 
I think Apple may use the A18 Pro to enable cellular option for the first time in one of their laptops.

Apple doesn’t need A18 to enable cellular. The modem is a separate chip. iPad Pro uses M chips with cellular.

It makes no sense to add an expensive feature to a low-cost device.
 
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I think this may be referring to the return of the 12" MacBook, but this time it will have a modified A18 Pro SoC with 16 GB of RAM (for Apple Intelligence compatibility and/or faster overall performance) and either 256 or 512 GB local storage. Using a modified A18 Pro SoC means much lower power usage than any M-series SoC. In short, it will be smaller than the MacBook Air 13" but with the same battery life per charge.
 
As the owner of an "ancient" M1 iPad Pro 11 (16gb, 1tb, 5g) and Magic Keyboard, I wonder when any of these developments will sink my rig, including this new 12" MacBook? Seems like I'm safe for a few years to come on the small Mac-like device frontier...
 
I don't get it.

CPUs don't make up a very large line item on the bill of materials (the screen is probably more expensive). And if the point is "cheaper Macbook Air," why not keep selling M2s? Or build out of plastic?

A new 12" Macbook would at least be carving out a new category. (and I would buy one, like, immediately)

((I always thought those old 11" Macbook Airs from the Intel days were ridiculous, but also ridiculously popular))
To spread the cost of production for the Pro chips across more than just the high end phone line. It makes sense.
 
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a 13" does not make sense. It would just be another MacBook Air with lighter specs.

I needs to be a 12" MacBook. That makes sense.
There's already another MacBook Air with lighter specs - the $650 M1 being sold at Wal-Mart. Using this chip instead would let them keep that model going without having to continue the M1 chip. That scenario makes much more sense than introducing some wildly new model.
 


Apple is developing a MacBook with the A18 Pro chip, according to findings in backend code uncovered by MacRumors.

A18-Pro-Chip.jpg

Earlier today, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo reported that Apple is planning to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by an iPhone chip. The machine is expected to feature a 13-inch display, the A18 Pro chip, and color options that include silver, blue, pink, and yellow.

MacRumors can now reveal that it first spotted evidence of such a device in backend code related to Apple Intelligence last summer, and subsequently confirmed its use of the A18 Pro chip. The machine features the identifier "Mac17,1."

This would be the first Mac powered by an ‌iPhone‌ chip. To date, all Apple silicon Macs have contained M-series chips, which offer higher core counts, support for larger amounts of memory, and better external display support. The A18 Pro chip debuted in the iPhone 16 Pro last year.

According to Kuo, the new MacBook is expected to enter mass production late in the fourth quarter of 2025 or early in the first quarter of 2026, which situates launch in the first half of next year.

Article Link: New MacBook With A18 Pro Chip Spotted in Apple Code
I keep hearing the term “backend code” without any such code being shown. What does MacRumors mean when they use the term? Are you even actually talking about code, or is this some data returned from a web service somewhere?
 
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