New MBAs: worse battery & graphics, more weight

[Typswif2fingers]

See the forest for the trees. What you call "whining" visionary companies might call useful feedback for bug fixes or features for future products.

I wonder which is more productive, shutting up and taking what you're offered, or discussing what one believes can be improved? In most cases, I'd wager action beats out no action.

Ironically you're castigating some of the very people that helped the products you love become what they are right now.

Companies don't come up with features or bug fixes that their customers want out of a hole in the ground. It *does* require feedback. As always, there's a middle ground between the extremes that can be very productive, and people can go too far one way or the other. I for one would rather err on the side of talking too much than not enough. But having that useful dialogue requires the ability to filter out the outliers, rather than complaining about their very existence (ha, complaining about complainers.)

Though this site obviously does not belong to Apple, having a community of people who can share problems, issues, bugs, likes & dislikes, helps the flow of communication get to where it needs to go moreso than silence. If 20 people have a problem with one thing on their machine, if it encourages one extra person to send Apple feedback about it (or if Apple monitors such sites on an occasional basis), then it's productive.

Trees, meet forest.

I think you have misunderstood what I was trying to say.. But, it happens.

Real problems, bugs, workflow restrictions etc. are one thing... nit picking and whinging are another.. I hope one can see the difference? One looks for solution and provides proposals, the other is useless. One is positive and productive, the other not so...

In any case, what I wrote - I wrote in jest.

Finally, I am quite bloody happy with what I got, and that I got it..

Half full glass, meet half empty glass

 

[ender21]

I think you have misunderstood what I was trying to say.. But, it happens.

Real problems, bugs, workflow restrictions etc. are one thing... nit picking and whinging are another.. I hope one can see the difference? One looks for solution and provides proposals, the other is useless. One is positive and productive, the other not so...

In any case, what I wrote - I wrote in jest.

Finally, I am quite bloody happy with what I got, and that I got it..

Half full glass, meet half empty glass

Ha, I'm very happy with what I got too. Compared to the old Apple IIe I tore apart just to get to 80 columns, a piece of hardware seemingly infinitely more powerful at a fraction of the size boggles the mind, when placed in that perspective.

It doesn't mean that it's perfect and has no room for improvement, though. Usually it's the things we care for that we wish to strive to be better. Therefore, to me at least, all things positive and all things negative have their place.

 

[melterx12]

ooh a 10 minute drop in battery life, how awful.

 

[jclardy]

How do you feel about losing 1 hour and 10 minutes (with CoolBook)? In any case, I agree the 13" drop is within the margin of error, but MBA 11" battery life could have used improvement, so to have that drop 30 minutes is unfortunate.

They don't state in their reviews...but was the 2010 MBA running Lion? My guess is that they are just using test data from when they first got that MBA in 2010...running Snow Leopard.

Most gadget review sites get the devices for a few weeks and have to send them back, and I doubt they would retest a device that they have been using for a year to one straight out of the box. (If someone in the office had a 2010 MBA.)

 

[Typswif2fingers]

Ha, I'm very happy with what I got too. Compared to the old Apple IIe I tore apart just to get to 80 columns, a piece of hardware seemingly infinitely more powerful at a fraction of the size boggles the mind, when placed in that perspective.

It doesn't mean that it's perfect and has no room for improvement, though. Usually it's the things we care for that we wish to strive to be better. Therefore, to me at least, all things positive and all things negative have their place.

Oh mate, completely agree with you...

No issue there..

I do think, however, that some issues brought in this particular thread do not necessarily fall under the range of "positive negativities"... if that term makes sense... that is to say, they are really not necessarily reasonable complaints...

In any case, I can see your point of view, and in the best traditions of us Western Australians, I will completely disregard it