Did this post get ENTIRELY ignored? Because it has a good point. The 2.4Ghz and 2.53Ghz Penryn/Montevina processors have 25W TDPs, unlike the 35W TDPs on 2.4Ghz and 2.5Ghz Penryn/SR chips they will be replacing. Did it occur to anyone else that this could easily make room for a bigger GPU? Also, may I remind everyone that we DO NOT HAVE HEAT/TDP INFO ON THE HD 3800s? People seem adamant that they run too hot, yet we don't even know how hot they run!
You really think the 3850 is going to run cooler than the 9600? It's still a high end part. Apple doesn't use high end GPUs. The 3850 is high end. The 9600 is mid range.
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The Mobility HD3850 wasn't a midrange card at launch and it still isn't today.If you talk to most mobile GPU enthusiasts, the 3850 is still considered a mid range card, just at the top end of the mid-range.
Whether a card is mid-range or high-end is not determined by whether or not you think it will appear in a MBP I'm afraid.
I've been talking to some peeps on a notebook gpu forum and apparently the 8700M GT runs hotter than the 8800M GTX, and considering the 9700M GT is a die shrunk 8700M GT, and the 9600M GT is only 65nm, it is probably actually a good bit hotter than ATI's HD 3850.
So in other words, surely a 9600M GT isn't a safe bet at all, but a long shot.
Process size isn't the sole determinant of TDP.They're also adamant that the 9600M GT will be cooler than the 3850 despite it being 65nm while the 3850 is 55nm!
Here. Release date: July 14, 2008.I can't seem to find the processors you are talking about, or at least ones that will be released before Q1 2009. I see 2.4 and 2.53Ghz processors with a 25W TDP, but none that would be out before the refresh (if the current rumors hold true and things are updated in a month or so).
I could be wrong, but what's the difference between a 35 W CPU and a 35 W GPU?On top of that I have a funny feeling that it doesn't work like that. I don't think you can trade TDPs, I think you need to look at the individual TDPs; what I mean is you'd wind up with a cool CPU and a melted GPU. I could be wrong but somehow I don't know we are talking about total TDP.
I could be wrong, but what's the difference between a 35 W CPU and a 35 W GPU?
Has Apple ever had early access to anyone's GPUs before?
That's a good one. Apple used to get GPUs a year and a half after they were released to the PC market.
They'll never have GPU exclusivity; they won't have anything better than a 9700 or comparable ATI card; they're not making them thicker. Please end this thread.
omfg
cut this dam thread
the 9600m gt is a good card for everything
it games good, does graphic design good, hell im waiting for someone to tell me what it cant do well
Never mind, I answered my own question.I could be wrong, but what's the difference between a 35 W CPU and a 35 W GPU?
they could sort something out for the 17inch at least! like an SLi cause of the space