new mpb wireless problem

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  1. Gooch1 macrumors newbie

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    Sorry I don't know if this is necessarily the place to post this.

    I have had my new mbp for 3 days now and am having problems with my wireless connecion. I am connected on Wireless N and it seems every 5 to 10 minutes my wireless connection is dropped. to fix this I have to turn the airport off and then on again and it is fixed until it happens again. I'm not 100% sure but I installed azureus bit torrent program and I think thats when I may have started happening. any ideas what the problem might be?
     
  2. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    File sharing apps are notoriously good at wrecking a wireless network. Ditch Azureus and power cycle your modem. It should be fine from then on. :)
     
  3. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    i use "bits on wheels" as my torrent program. sure its only ppc, but its that good and reliable its not funny.

    dofot9
     
  4. Gooch1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Yeah Thanks guys I think I might just try transmission I hear its good and easy on the resources.
     
  5. Fearless Leader macrumors 68020

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    What router are you using? And I notice wireless problem with bittorrent (linux iso's) but only when I start pulling about a 1 megabyte a second.
     
  6. noway macrumors regular

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    I've been connected for 5 hours now (battery very low...) on my DIR 655 (D-link Xtreme N) and it never dropped. And I tried every where in the house as well outside. Might be your router cuz the MBP card seems pretty good. (well mine at least)
    I'm running the 2.2ghz mbp with 2gb RAM and 160gb HDD if you wonder...
     
  7. Gooch1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Hey I'm using a netgear wireless N and it seems everytime I get to about 100 kb/s it drops connection. I'm even using transmission instead of azeraus and it still does it periodiacally. Right now I am using wired while I download but I would like to know if the problem is my router or what.
     
  8. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Ditch all file sharing apps, power cycle the router, and then see if your problems continue. :)
     
  9. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    im just wondering if it could be the channels?? sometimes the channels run at different speeds, i had this happen when i added my express to my extreme. so i changed the channel to 11 and all seemed to be sweet...
     
  10. dcv macrumors G3

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    I bought my MBP a few hours ago and having issues related to Airport.

    So far have had 3 kernel panics (all Airport related), a couple of dodgy restarts where it just appears to hang, it keeps dropping off the internet while both my iMac and PowerBook are fine (so not a router/ISP issue) and it won't allow me to run iChat video. However since I turned off my Airport and plugged an ethernet cable it's been behaving a little better and I am able to run iChat.

    Mine is a 2.4GHz 15" MBP.
     
  11. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    uummm i know there are a few airport client updates (for you laptop) have you done those? and also a while ago i had to downgrade my airport drivers to version 5.5.1 (???) because i kept losing signal. could this also be doing something similar to your lappy?
     
  12. dcv macrumors G3

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    Well I ran all the latest Software Updates as soon as I started up this machine. I've noticed there's another thread about kernel panics and they all seem to be related to Airport... I'm definitely having the same wireless/panic issues as other people have reported. I don't know if this might be related to what the OP of this thread is experiencing though?
     
  13. desk003 macrumors member

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    It's all my fault. Had these types of problems with the last revision of ibooks, where they upped it to 1.5gb max of RAM, the one I bought. Had to deal with literally no airport for about a month or more until apple put out a driver update. Figures it'd happen again. :p
     
  14. magius macrumors regular

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    i had those exact same problems too. i'm not sure if this will help you, but what i did was change some of my router settings. i switched the wireless channel to 7 (2442 mhz) and the wireless network encryption to WPA. I think for most routers, to get to your settings page you type home in your browser. otherwise it is some ip number that i forget, but if all else fails call your isp provider and ask them (or do a google search on your router model).

    if that doesn't work, try turning off all security just for awhile and seeing if that fixes it. If it does, then you know its your router and you will have to tweak the settings more. For me it is working beautifully
     
  15. jawzzy macrumors regular

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    Huh. Why do file sharing apps wreck wireless networks? I've had some problems with this too (albeit on a Windows machine).
     
  16. Gooch1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    well after I deleted azureus I did power cycle my modem, which correct me if I did it wrong but i turned off my computer, then back on and then restarted it.

    Well I did change my router setting (well at least my channel on my router and hopefully this cures it but we'll see) I just hope this isn't a problem with my airport.

    Edit: the channel change didn't work. So I will now ditch these bittorrent programs and powercycle my modem but how do I check for sure to see whether or not it's my airport/router or the software that is causing this problem, I would like to know so I can solve this issue.
     
  17. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    ...Because they put so much strain on the network. Some apps such as BitComet override the seeder's DHT settings to force higher download bandwidth. If you're uploading a file for others to use, this can wreck your network and for some reason it affects wireless networks moreso. I'm guessing it's because of the different protocols but I don't know for sure.



    Power cycling your modem has nothing to do with restarting your machine. Unplug the power form the modem for a minute and then plug it back in. :)
     
  18. Gooch1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Alright so looking at this reasoning doesn't make sense for my problem. The first time it ever happend is when I started up azereus but I hadn't even begun to download torrents at that point. It seems this happens to kill my wireless on ocassion even when the programs aren't transferring. Though this hasn't happend when either azureus or transmission was closed, when I'm just surfing firefox.

    As far as power cycling the modem, I don't know if this is necessarily the problem because I have other family members with pc's that are connected to our wireless network but use bittorrents and don't have any problems with dropouts.

    Sorry I am just trying to diagnose this problem to make sure it is not my card within my computer that is actually having the problem.
     
  19. polyun macrumors member

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    I'm actually having the same problem. Based on what I've researched so far it looks like it has to do with the wireless router I'm using (Netgear WPN824). Before I just started using this I was running a wireless connection without any problem using an old Microsoft base station (MN-500). I'm almost tempted to go back to it even though it's 80211b and only has WEP security.

    Let me know if you come up with anything.
     
  20. dcv macrumors G3

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    I got a replacement MBP yesterday and I'm also having wireless connection problems with this one. It just keeps dropping off and telling me I'm not connected to the internet, while my PowerBook sitting right next to it has no problems at all, so it can't be a wireless access point issue. :confused:

    I'm using Apple Airport Expresses (g) for my wi-fi.
     
  21. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    probably a silly silly question but have u done that latest update for airport clients that came out??
     
  22. dcv macrumors G3

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    If it was included in Software Update then yes I'm up to date but if it's a download from elsewhere then I guess not :confused:
     
  23. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    yea it was. so you should be sweet with that. what version is ur express using? any chance of it being that? if not then its possibly something bigger
     
  24. Sopranino macrumors 6502

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    The problem mentioned here is not being caused by a Torrent loader program. The wireless routers are more than capable of handling sustained uploading and downloading and will respond nicely with high demand levels. I've used a torrent loader (Azureus) on a wireless network to download and seed X-Plane as well as several versions of Ubuntu PPC Linux. I've never encountered even the slightest disruption of service that didn't originate with my ISP.

    Now having said all that there are several points as far as ISPs are concerned. Some ISP companies maintain watcher programs on their systems or they have limiters built in (some cable companies limit your upload speed and/or byte traffic) which they will use to throttle back, or stop entirely, your upload or download traffic during peak times. (Here again this seems to mostly occur with cable based services). It may be that the throttling or dropping of upload/download linking may be causing your wireless to bork (technical term for quitting:D )

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  25. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Agreed. Torrent apps can cause havoc with wireless networks but I can see that's not the problem here. I'm just trying to rule it out because if this is an inherent MacBook Pro problem, Apple will point the finger at all other possible causes before taking responsibility.



    Excellent point. A quick way to test these possible ISP issues would be to attempt basic file sharing between machines on the same network, bypassing the internet. If files cannot still be transferred between machines at full speed, then it's definitely not an ISP issue. I'm not trying to shoot down anyone's ideas here, I'm just trying to get all possible avenues checked. :)
     

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