It is important to take this guys opinion with a grain of salt. About 6 months ago he was saying how bad the stock drives that Apple ships with their computers are. He continued to post how bad and undependable they are without realising that Apple used hard drives from many different manufacturers including Western Digital, Toshiba, Samsung and just about everyone else. I pretty much begged him to stop posting these ridiculous claims as they had no basis on fact. Just like this silly assumption. Everyone I have seen post about the Vertex 3 has had nothing but positive results. When you cough up and buy one yourself Nik, then you can talk. Until then stick with your cheap Western Digital drives.....
Once again, you attack me with your words but you fail to offer any credible sources whatsoever, negating your argument in full.
You are 1 person with a personal opinion, as am I. The reviews posted above are from many people. Generally speaking, you want to support your arguments with what other people say that are in agreement with your initial argument. Show me some of your 'facts' to prove that the Vertex line is not a sub-par SSD. Please? Other studies have also found high failure rates of your drives as well.
The FORMER factory Apple HDDs on former MBPs, largely those from the 2009 era, were not as good as aftermarket ones from a comparison group, both speed wise and reliability wise. New, first of all, the hard drives used in the MBP in that era were similar to other makers (same drives, often relabeled), which is why information was compiled on them (as the MBP is not a business class laptop due to price). You can go online and type in model numbers and find that the factory hard drives used during 2009 were among the slowest on the market even at their time of release. Finding reliability data requires research skills, which you either are unwilling to exercise or simply lack. The 2009 era hard drives also sold for about $39-47 IIRC to the public (it was under 50 and the 2009's 250 GB HDD was under 40). I am comparing the factory drives to such as the WD Black/Spinpoint/Momentus 7200 and others that you could get on Amazon or from most retailers and wholesalers. Almost every hard drive maker has at least one tier HDD line that stands high above their others (EX: WD Scorpio Black versus their standard Passport boxed portables). These tiers were rarely used in factory-shipped computers. You, among others, previously mentioned how those hard drives are not standard because they are premium products, and I said, and still say, that a 3 thousand dollar computer is premium and should have the best. The 500 GB 7500 RPM hard disk drives with the highest statistical and user ratings can be had for under $100. I don't think that is unreasonable to request in a computer that prides itself on being premium.
Notice the current SSD in the MacBook Pro is among the best, and from the reviews that I have read, the hard disk drives being used on the 2011 (and possibly later 2010s) now are also premium. During these conversations, you constantly told me I was wrong, but each time you failed to offer any support being your opinion. If you don't think that customer reviews on reliability indicate product quality, than yes, my reviews are and have been compromised from your perspective. Looking at MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) rates, smaller reliability studies, and user reviews, I was able to say the former factory drives were nowhere near as good as the ones I compared them to. Indeed, the MTBF had a relatively high standard deviation with a variety of missing values, and it is important to note that some variation exists on how makers define a "failure". Not all makers publicized their MTBF, and sometimes one must contact the manufacturer to get this information, although not all will disclose it. Also, MTBF generally sits at 1-2 million hours for higher end HDDs, and so comparing multiple higher end drives with 1 million MTBF ratings means very little. Comparing them to the factory Apple drives, however, did sometimes mean something, as many of the drives that they used were 600,000 MTBF. Those numbers in themselves need to be considered with other specs, and of course user reviews. At this point, you can look at non-recoverable read errors per bits read and load/unload cycles, but both had less variation, and most mid to higher end laptop hard drives sat at around 600,000 stop/starts, and some lower end hard drives were 300,000+/-, and some did not list this data. Warranty should also be considered. Makers offering 5 year or higher warranties on HDDs may say something about reliability, but surely say something about the users liability for mass drive failure. Despite all of the above specs, the ultimate test of quality is how well it works in the real world over time. User reviews of the individual hard drives in the examined MBPs (as well as user reviews OF the computers using those in which users indicated hard drive problems), identified a weakness compared to mid-premium user grade (and of course enterprise level) HDDs. Furthermore, more recent studies have identified the aftermarket drives used for comparison purposes among the most reliable on the market today, with most using full failure as the primary unit of calculation. Ultimately, the hard drives in the previous MacBook Pro did not match the computer, and some had questionable issues surrounding their long-term reliability. It seems the identified weaknesses was successfully addressed with the use of different tier 500 and 750 GB hard drives in 2011 models, however, my active research of the issue ended before the 2011 MBP was widely distributed.
It is also worth noting that many of the older hard disk drives that were used in the Apple MacBook Pro had complaints of clacks. Noise was not an issue that was examined and some hard drives seem to just like to chatter, and this noise complaint was not used to measure reliability whatsoever.
One Vertex 2 was more than enough for us thank you very much! But ultimately, it comes down the individual user to decide what they are going to buy. This is an opinionated form. You can say whatever you want to say, as can I, as can anyone else. Im the first to admit that I can be wrong and that no research is infallible; but when you continually follow me around on a forum and tell me that I am wrong without providing evidence, I have a hard time believing anything that you say. Show me evidence, and I will admit fault to my reasoning. It isnt that complicated.
