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The latest version of Office 2011 does support the retina display of the rMBP, it's just the icons that are not so high res. The content part is fine.

How so? Considering the upgrade to rMBP but I'm a heavy Office user.

What version are you using? MS pushed out an Retina update for 2011 months ago. It's looking great over here... before the upgrade it looked like 1992 graphics.

Currently mine looks like this

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PS. Updated, wayyyy better! Thanks heaps, guys!

After:

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Time zones

I am sure that a large number of your readers and contributors, like me, do not hail from the Northern hemisphere. It is most disconcerting when all your time frames are listed as Summer, Winter, Fall and Spring with regard to releases. I know this is an Apple thing and dislike it with them as well. In case you haven't visited the southern hemisphere, please be aware that we have seasons opposite to yours. Therefore your Spring is our Autumn (not fall which is a particularly American term) and each season is opposite yours.
Perhaps we could adopt beginning, middle and end of year, or talk in terms of months.
Thanks for listening.
 
So, will this be a Cocoa app? I just want to see M$ doing that. :p

2014....let's see....that's about 10 years late to the party?!?
 
Office is becoming irrelevant.

With particular reference to Excel, I take it you don't work in finance, professional services or insurance.

If you did, your colleagues might die of oxygen starvation from laughing themselves to death if you dropped that one on them.
 
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I take it you don't work in finance, professional services or insurance.

Nope.

from Gruber today on daringfireball.net

Daring Fireball said:
I see what they’re thinking. Wait, and give Windows RT and 8 a chance to gain traction. But, the longer they wait to bring Office to iOS, the more it seems like Office is no longer relevant, period.

Bingo.
 
Thanks for providing the proof. I also heard that Deutsche Bank just replaced all their Office licences for Pages and Numbers last week.

tsk tsk

Have many clients in insurance and many use custom solutions for document management and iPads for getting digital signatures. Office is still relevant but it's relevance is certainly waning. It hasn't affected iPad sales as far as I can tell.
 
I wouldn't say Office is "irrelevant", exactly. However within my company, which is fairly large (50,000 employees) and certainly information-intensive (commercial airline), content creation is completely divorced from content distribution. All dissemination is done with pdf documents. So the content creator IS essentially irrelevant and comes down to a matter of personal choice.

I haven't actually needed Office for several years now. I do understand that for certain specialized fields like accounting, Excel is indispensable. But I can see it being replaced more and more by specialized tailored apps, and increasingly marginalized.

For the vast majority of users, consumer OR business, it is becoming less of a necessity. Especially as standardization across various formats (ie, Rich Text is pretty much in every email client now, etc) increases.

Heck, I could make 90% of my personal documentation with TextEdit, for pete's sake!
 
I won't be upgrading. Outlook 2011 was borked out of the gate and MicroSlop refused to fix it. I'll stick with iWork.

Despite its shortcomings, Outlook is the only viable Exchange calendar client on the Mac. Mail works reasonably well for Exchange email, but Calendar is a non-starter. iWork isn't relevant here, since it doesn't even include a calendar app. And, while I like and use Keynote, it hasn't been updated seriously in more than four years, which doesn't bode well for Apple's commitment to it or the iWork suite in general.
 
save your resume as a pdf

Another option is to save it is rich-text (rtf). You get all the same pretty formatting without the proprietary file formats.

99% of the documents (esp. resumes) out there could be RTF and don't need to be DOC, DOCX, ODF, etc.
 
The sales of the iPad and iPhone in Enterprise say otherwise. Microsoft Office or the lack thereof is a minor pain point.

That's simply because NOBODY uses a TABLET for running office suites. I don't know what those devices are actually used for (except for showing off that "our staff has them, too"), but I'm pretty sure that they aren't used for actual WRITING or number crunching. Maybe to show some power point slides, but certainly not for editing.

That being said, if anybody needs Microsoft Office on a tablet, there is this thing called Surface RT that comes with Office 2013 pre-installed. And then there is the new generation of Windows 8 tablets that can even run the real thing.
 
Apache OpenOffice - for IOS-Devices, too

I absolutely hate it. Word crashes all the time...I also have iWork, but it just doesn't have the chapter controls that I need. Sadly there still is no good alternative in business for Word. I would jump in a second.
Try Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (stable, office-sufficient). In exchange with other companies that uses Word/Excel we have no real problems.

IPad: www.rollapp.com/openoffice
Version for IOS should work properly :)

Open Office is free and much more stable than LibreOffice - I wonder that it isn't appreciated more... :rolleyes:
 
I won't be upgrading. Outlook 2011 was borked out of the gate and MicroSlop refused to fix it. I'll stick with iWork.

I use Office365 exchange for my custom domain mail hosting - the funny part is that Apple's own Mail.app and friends do a better job with communicating via the Microsoft proprietary protocol. I really wonder whether they're actually putting any effort into it give the mountain of bugs that power users point out on a regular basis over at Arstechnica forum which has some Microsoft employees lurking around.

I use Pages on a regular basis on my iPad. If Apple can do it, so can Microsoft. It doesn't have to be 100% functional.

I'd say that if it is coming to iOS it'll end being like Office for Windows RT - parts of Office compatibility might be thrown overboard in favour of being legacy free which means not all of your documents are going to be read perfectly.

Question is, when will Apple be good enough to give us an updated iWork?

And, yes, I do use it on my iPad. :)

And crickets chirped.

In the meantime, we breathlessly await Apple's next move... have they completely abandoned iWork altogether?

According to the AppStore the iWork applications were updated in December last year - and they're performing pretty well so far. If there is going to be an update it'll be a gradual one given that for most people iWork as it currently stands is already a pretty good alternative to Microsoft Office even if it lacks some of the fancy high end bells and whistles that Microsoft Office has.
 
[YAWN] I can't remember when there was an Office for Mac that didn't suck. Won't be buying it ever again.

Thankfully I'm now in a line of work that doesn't chain me to Microsoft's truly terrible (on Mac AND Windows) software.

Office 2011 isn't bad but Office for Windows has always been an exceptional suite of applications.

And the latest version (2013) is brilliant. I can't fault it.
 
GIVE IT THE SAME LOOK AND FEEL IN BOTH THE WINDOWS AND MAC VERSION!!!!

No one I work with will use a Mac for work because everyone hates Office for Mac, since the interface for Windows is much easier and more intuitive. :confused::confused:

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GIVE IT THE SAME LOOK AND FEEL IN BOTH THE WINDOWS AND MAC VERSION!!!!

No one I work with will use a Mac for work because everyone hates Office for Mac, since the interface for Windows is much easier and more intuitive. :confused::confused:

And before anyone suggests it, no installing windows 7 and windows office on the Mac is not a good solution. That's a bandaide on a broken leg. LOL
 
I think I will survive without MS on my iPad and iPhone. QuickOffice is quite a good solution, Pages & co are also almost acceptable.
 
Thanks but no thanks. I would rather a better looking pages than any office update.

Uh, you do know that they are made by different companies, right?

You might as well say "Thanks but no thanks. I would rather a new Mac Pro than a Sony Blu-Ray player".

Nobody is collaborating to meet your hierarchy of wants, so I'm not sure what your point is.
 
ITT: A lot of people that think that businesses buy ipad's to run office suites and replace desktop computers.
 
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