New Photos app, with Photostream

[superflush]

Agree - don't like the [month][year] feature missing that was a key feature for me in years of photos - anyone find a workaround to get this back? The Smart Albums have lots of features - seems this would be possible.

I don't have a work around, but there is a completely different paradigm for where photos are stored. I was just at the Apple Store the other day, and I believe I got some slightly wrong information. The things that are particularly different from before are:

Now, individual photos do not need to be in any album at all (they can simply live only in the Photos (Moments) main section of Photos.app
If you delete a photo that is only in one album, it also deletes it from the Photos (Moments) main section (and that photo will show up in Recently Deleted).
Individual photos can be in multiple albums at once.
If you delete a photo that happens to be in multiple albums, it does not delete it from the other albums or from the Photos (Moments) main section (and that photo will not show up in Recently Deleted).

This is all based off of trying things out over the past few days. I'm all ears if anyone thinks things work differently than this in Photos.app.

 

[Gsmaniac]

So now if i delete a photo from my iPhone camera roll does that mean It will also be deleted from my mac? I like the idea of taking a photo and having it safely wirelessly synced onto my mac and then deleting it from my phone to free space. When i delete images from my phone it says that It will now be deleted from all my devices. Prior to the new photos app, if i was to plug my phone to my mac and manually upload, the photo remains on my mac no matter what i do to the image on my phone.

So confusing.

 

[jasbart]

upload to icloud photo library

I've attempted to upload a relatively small number of photos from three i-devices (iPhone 5s, iPad Air, iPad 2). So far the only completed job has been the iPad 2. The iPhone 5s is stuck at "uploading 101 photos" and the iPad Air is stuck at around "uploading 169 photos". I have 18 gigs left in my iCloud, and the total space these photos should have taken couldn't possibly have been more than 3-4 gigs.

By the way, this upload stoppage has been in effect for about 12 hours. (All iDevices are running IOS 8.3, Mac Mini is running Yosemite 10.10.3.)

Any ideas? Thanks, Jim

 

[superflush]

So now if i delete a photo from my iPhone camera roll does that mean It will also be deleted from my mac? I like the idea of taking a photo and having it safely wirelessly synced onto my mac and then deleting it from my phone to free space. When i delete images from my phone it says that It will now be deleted from all my devices. Prior to the new photos app, if i was to plug my phone to my mac and manually upload, the photo remains on my mac no matter what i do to the image on my phone.

So confusing.

If you delete a photo from your iPhone Camera Roll, it will also delete it from My Photo Stream. If you have already opened up Photos.app on Mac and allowed the photo to load in through My Photo Stream, and then delete it from your iPhone, it should still stay in Photos for Mac. This is if you have iCloud Photo Library turned off. If you have iCloud Photo Library turned on, then I'm not sure if that delete would then be synced across the Mac.

 

[Bugdozer]

If you delete a photo from your iPhone Camera Roll, it will also delete it from My Photo Stream. If you have already opened up Photos.app on Mac and allowed the photo to load in through My Photo Stream, and then delete it from your iPhone, it should still stay in Photos for Mac. This is if you have iCloud Photo Library turned off. If you have iCloud Photo Library turned on, then I'm not sure if that delete would then be synced across the Mac.

I have iCloud photo library turned on, on all 3 of my devices (iPad,, iPhone and iMac) If I delete a pic off lets say my phone it deletes it everywhere including the photo app on my iMac which is something I don't want. I want to keep originals there and delete them off my phone

 

[dcaccount]

Here's the difference,

....
In Photos, it seems it integrates Photo Stream so that photos are automatically shown in the photo lists/albums. There is no option to import a photo to the local library. If you remove a photo from the Photo Stream, it's gone from Photos app.

For importing photos, such as plugging in a Camera, in iPhoto and Aperture you had the option to disable uploading those photos to Photo Stream. In Photos there is no option to not upload imported photos. Anything you import it going to be pushed up to Photo Stream.

-Kevin

Thanks Kevin,
But if I want to import a picture from Photostream to the local library to permanently save it, what shall I do?

With iPhoto, I have always used Photostream to avoid connecting iPhone to Mac with the cable. I just waited for the photo to appear on the Photostream and then I moved it I the iPhoto library.

And now? What shall I do?

Thanks, daniele

 

[netnothing]

Thanks Kevin,
But if I want to import a picture from Photostream to the local library to permanently save it, what shall I do?

With iPhoto, I have always used Photostream to avoid connecting iPhone to Mac with the cable. I just waited for the photo to appear on the Photostream and then I moved it I the iPhoto library.

And now? What shall I do?

Thanks, daniele

It will still auto import the photo from Photo Stream, although it won't put it in it's own album.

The issue is that if you remove the photo from Photo Stream using the Photos app, it's gone. If you remove the photo from Photo Stream using an iDevice, it will stay in the local library.

The only way around this I have found, which isn't really a great option is, any photos in Photo stream, right click and say duplicate. Then delete the original set of photos. The duplicates will stay in the local library.

It's really a mess as I think they are blurring the lines between photo stream and iCloud Photo Library.

UPDATE: Ok, here's what I found. If you used Photo Stream and iPhoto before like I did, you would:
1) Take photos on your iPhone
2) Open iPhoto and go to Photo Stream
3) Either manually drag photos from Photo Stream to an Event or have it setup so it auto creates a dated Event
4) Delete the photos in Photo Stream (which would not delete the photos in your iPhone Camera Roll).

That's how we used it before, I think like you, so we didn't have to plug in our phones.

Now, it seems that Photos app does the following:
1) Take photos on your iPhone
2) Open Photos. The photos in Photo Stream will be auto imported into the library. You will see them in the Photo Stream album as well as the Photos or All Photos album

Now here's where it gets tricky.

3) If you delete those in Photos from the Photo Stream folder it will not only remove them from Photo Stream, but also the local library.

If you want to keep copies locally and delete them from Photo Stream
4) Go into the Photo Stream album and select all the photos in Photo Stream
5) Press CMD + D or right click and say Duplicate X photos. It will duplicate all the photos.
6) DO NOT CLICK ANYWHERE. By not clicking, the original photos will still be highlighted.
7) Now either right click on a highlighted image or press delete. You will see ALL the photos be removed from Photo Stream, the originals and the duplicates.
8) But, the duplicates will still be in the local library.

The fact I had to make 8 steps for this probably shows Apple didn't think this through.

Even though this "technically" works.....we still can't use Photos and Photo Stream because Apple is forcing any other imports to be auto uploaded into Photo Stream. So if import 150 photos from our DSLR, with Photo Stream turned on, ALL of them will be uploaded. Not sure why they took at option away.

-Kevin

 

[dcaccount]

It will still auto import the photo from Photo Stream, although it won't put it in it's own album.

The issue is that if you remove the photo from Photo Stream using the Photos app, it's gone. If you remove the photo from Photo Stream using an iDevice, it will stay in the local library.

The only way around this I have found, which isn't really a great option is, any photos in Photo stream, right click and say duplicate. Then delete the original set of photos. The duplicates will stay in the local library.

It's really a mess as I think they are blurring the lines between photo stream and iCloud Photo Library.

UPDATE: Ok, here's what I found. If you used Photo Stream and iPhoto before like I did, you would:
1) Take photos on your iPhone
2) Open iPhoto and go to Photo Stream
3) Either manually drag photos from Photo Stream to an Event or have it setup so it auto creates a dated Event
4) Delete the photos in Photo Stream (which would not delete the photos in your iPhone Camera Roll).

That's how we used it before, I think like you, so we didn't have to plug in our phones.

Now, it seems that Photos app does the following:
1) Take photos on your iPhone
2) Open Photos. The photos in Photo Stream will be auto imported into the library. You will see them in the Photo Stream album as well as the Photos or All Photos album

Now here's where it gets tricky.

3) If you delete those in Photos from the Photo Stream folder it will not only remove them from Photo Stream, but also the local library.

If you want to keep copies locally and delete them from Photo Stream
4) Go into the Photo Stream album and select all the photos in Photo Stream
5) Press CMD + D or right click and say Duplicate X photos. It will duplicate all the photos.
6) DO NOT CLICK ANYWHERE. By not clicking, the original photos will still be highlighted.
7) Now either right click on a highlighted image or press delete. You will see ALL the photos be removed from Photo Stream, the originals and the duplicates.
8) But, the duplicates will still be in the local library.

The fact I had to make 8 steps for this probably shows Apple didn't think this through.

Even though this "technically" works.....we still can't use Photos and Photo Stream because Apple is forcing any other imports to be auto uploaded into Photo Stream. So if import 150 photos from our DSLR, with Photo Stream turned on, ALL of them will be uploaded. Not sure why they took at option away.

-Kevin

Thanks Kevin,
It sounds clear.

For the time being I have disabled Photostream to avoid loosing photos. I think, I will import from iPhone with the cable.

Any advice?

Daniele

 

[netnothing]

Thanks Kevin,
It sounds clear.

For the time being I have disabled Photostream to avoid loosing photos. I think, I will import from iPhone with the cable.

Any advice?

Daniele

That's the advice I gave my Mom.....stop using Photo Stream in Photos and hope Apple fixes it.

-Kevin

 

[GlenK]

Once I went to IPL I turned off Photo Stream. Just don't see a need for it anymore.

 

[netnothing]

Once I went to IPL I turned off Photo Stream. Just don't see a need for it anymore.

I have over 73,000 photos using 350+ GB. Have no desire to have them all in IPL, nor do I want to pay Apple for it every month.

-Kevin

 

[brilliantthings]

I have 150 photos in My Photostream on iPhone and iPad. The new Photos app only shows 30 of these photos. I have restarted the app and the computer. Any ideas?

 

[superflush]

I have iCloud photo library turned on, on all 3 of my devices (iPad,, iPhone and iMac) If I delete a pic off lets say my phone it deletes it everywhere including the photo app on my iMac which is something I don't want. I want to keep originals there and delete them off my phone

I totally understand why you want that. You should be able to clear space off of your camera roll without permanently deleting the photo from everywhere. I believe that the "optimize photos for storage" setting intends to remedy this.

I have 150 photos in My Photostream on iPhone and iPad. The new Photos app only shows 30 of these photos. I have restarted the app and the computer. Any ideas?

I've had momentary hiccups like this with Photos app for Mac, but they seem to fix themselves after a reboot.

 

[superflush]

I'm still having trouble with photos from My Photo Stream seeming to never make it to the new Photos app for Mac. When I open Aperture, they load in just fine, so it seems to be a bug of Photos app for Mac.

 

[StoneJack]

I stopped using the f=== Photos after 1 week.

 

[iubhounds]

I have read through all of the posts in two pages. A few people want the same thing that I want.

1. When I download photos from my camera SD card I do NOT want them automatically uploaded into my iPhone and iPad.

I tried shutting off Photo Stream in the Photo program...but that prevented photos I took with my iPhone to be downloaded into my iMac ... where I want to keep all of my photos which are backed up on the time machine.

2. I am not going to pay to use iCloud.

3. I want to do the least amount of things manually settings wise.

Correct me if I am wrong but I read in this thread that after 30 days photos in Photo Stream on your iPhone or iPad will be deleted?? Tell me if that is true.

All I want is to prevent all of my Nikon camera photos that I upload into my iMac are not uploaded into my iPhone and iPad.

What is the solution to do that?

 

[hendrilei]

UPDATE: Ok, here's what I found. If you used Photo Stream and iPhoto before like I did, you would:
1) Take photos on your iPhone
2) Open iPhoto and go to Photo Stream
3) Either manually drag photos from Photo Stream to an Event or have it setup so it auto creates a dated Event
4) Delete the photos in Photo Stream (which would not delete the photos in your iPhone Camera Roll).

That's how we used it before, I think like you, so we didn't have to plug in our phones.

Now, it seems that Photos app does the following:
1) Take photos on your iPhone
2) Open Photos. The photos in Photo Stream will be auto imported into the library. You will see them in the Photo Stream album as well as the Photos or All Photos album

Now here's where it gets tricky.

3) If you delete those in Photos from the Photo Stream folder it will not only remove them from Photo Stream, but also the local library.


-Kevin

I really missed old feature from photo stream on my macbook iphoto, which will upload all our new pictures from iphone to photo stream, and import automatically to my iphotos, without caring about space, since it will automatically delete old pictures from my photo stream space if it's exceed the limit

Right now, all my new pictures stuck on my iphone, because I'm too lazy to plug in the cable and manually import all that new pictures to my macbook

Please share if you have some other alternatives

I'm not enabling the icloud photo or pay for that

I'm thinking about flickr, anyone tried that yet ?

 

[rathbon3]

I have found what appears to be either an intended work around, or a lucky bug. We've established that deleting a photo from My Photo stream on an IOS device does NOT delete any photos that have already been automatically imported to the
Photos app on the mac. If you delete photos from the My Photo Stream in the Photos app for mac (using Command and delete), it will remove the photos from any albums, hence deleting them from local storage. However, if you delete them from the My Photo Stream section using only the delete button, they will be removed from photo stream on all devices, but remain in any albums and not be deleted from local storage on the mac.