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Originally posted by cshapiro
Mac OS X is not the most ram consuming operating system.

I have a Windows XP machine (as well as a ibook) with 512 MB of RAM. On a fresh boot about 256 MB is taken up by Windows.

It may be that windows takes advantage of computers that have larger amounts of ram by running more features on a boot, but I've never heard of anything like that.

My ibook has only 128 MB of RAM and runs perfectly fine. I can tell that the RAM is only about ten percent used in the process viewer.

I had 64 MB of ram in my laptop, and XP ran just fine. I have since added a 128 MB chip since I run a lot of programs at the same time...again, no problems.

I dunno how much RAM windows uses, since I haven't restarted my computer in weeks now, but right now explorer.exe is using 10 MB of ram.
 
Originally posted by Over Achiever
I had 64 MB of ram in my laptop, and XP ran just fine. I have since added a 128 MB chip since I run a lot of programs at the same time...again, no problems.

I dunno how much RAM windows uses, since I haven't restarted my computer in weeks now, but right now explorer.exe is using 10 MB of ram.

Yes, thanks to the miracle of paging files aka virtual memory. I also have XP on my laptop, 128MB RAM, and Task Manager shows that I am using (with only Phoenix open, 16.2MB usage, aside from the "usual" bevy of Win XP processes) 139MB of system+pagefile memory. I know from experience that at startup this figure is just over 120MB.

Windows XP is a massive memory hog. Which is why, if you look into just about any PC site's or magazine's XP tune-up recommendations, #1 is "get at least 512MB RAM!"

On the other hand, so is OS X. OS X may use less memory doing "nothing", but the way its Window Server is designed (it keeps the contents of each window, even if the window is not shown, in memory 100% of the time), memory usage increases dramatically with each new window open. XP, like all Windows, only keeps the current composited image in memory at once, leading to a more-or-less constant GDI memory usage, and asks apps to redraw themselves when the user moves windows around on-screen. The reason for X's approach is that your display response does not depend upon individual applications' response to the "redraw window" message, leading to more responsive display of moving windows.
 
3 *concrete facts* to think about, speaking of a possible new 4x7x1" Apple iPod2/Tablet/PDA/whatever:

1) AirPort Extreme card size is much smaller than normail AirPort one.

2) This Spring are 5 years from official Newton demise (Spring 1998).

3) This Summer are 10 years from Newton introduction (Summer 1993).

does anyone have the measurements for a newton?
because now i think that there might be an iNewton or whatever they will call it
 
A few things I want to comment on:
Originally posted by synp
A 5"x7" enclosure with a 4"x6" screen for displaying pictures. It will also be able to connect via USB or firewire to a digicam/digivideo to download the pics.

This is a good companion for a digital camera, and alleviates one of the major impediments to digital photography.
No digital picture frame! It would be pointless. You could stick a color screen and a USB port on the iPod and it would do the same thing, except smaller.
Why make something that can only display pictures? It could do many other things as well. If Apple is going to make anything to store digital pics, it might as well be a hard drive based camera.
Originally posted by Ervino
This Spring are 5 years from official Newton demise (Spring 1998)
Actually, it was five years ago last Thursday.
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
does anyone have the measurements for a newton?
because now i think that there might be an iNewton or whatever they will call it
Why yes I do! The MP2000 and 2100 measured 8.3 x 4.7 x 1.1. Similar indeed.

I like the whole iNewton idea, and it fits right into the whole mini-tablet idea. One in same.
 
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
Actually, it was five years ago last Thursday.

I apologize: I was going by memory... ;-)

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
Why yes I do! The MP2000 and 2100 measured 8.3 x 4.7 x 1.1. Similar indeed.

I like the whole iNewton idea, and it fits right into the whole mini-tablet idea. One in same.

AND we can re-use our old Newton-branded MP2000/2100 leather cases for the new iWhatever! :)))

Cheers
Ervino
 
Hey guys, this might just be some kind of external drive case. But it's fun to dream.

As for the guy with Windows CE palmtop, I think there is software to sync it under Mac OS X. Google for it.

Huge amounts of open-source software are being ported to Mac these days -- it's very easy -- so if you see something you like for Linux, you can probably get it running. That's not true of Windows XP, of course.

Mac has the best of the commercial software, and the best of the open-source software -- both on one easy-to-use platform.
 
Originally posted by cubist
Hey guys, this might just be some kind of external drive case. But it's fun to dream.


Naa... I bet on the iPad!

Jobs loves too much the "stage coups" to let slip the 10 years Newt introduction anniversary without showing how he is sooooo much smarter than John Sculley... :)))

And, after all, back in 1998, Jobs *formally promised* that he was retaking the Newton in Apple (after closing the Newton-Inc. spin-off) to "better develop the technology".

And Jobs *never* lies on products, it isn't? ;-)

Cheers
Ervino
 
iFrame

I remember seeing a rumor about an updating photo frame sometime last year when the 20 gb iPod was introduced.

With the recent news about Tivo and Apple...it makes me think that its more likely a self updating picture frame than a PDA or tablet type device..

Although...I'd like both of these...a photo frame isn't very useful to me...I would want a tablet much more...
 
my speculation

is that this 5x7x1" plastic dongle is some sort of sex toy.

I mean, what do you expect? It's from MacWhispers/DVForge/Jack Campbell!
 
No iFrame!

Why would Apple make a digital picture frame when they could make a mini-tablet or an iNewton or USB-powered paperweight that could display the pictures as well as doing dozens of other things (like keeping your papers from blowing away)?

It just doesn't make sense. Apple will not build a digital picture frame. A new hard drive based digital camera is far more likely, and that's not likely at all (although it would be really cool).
 
and SettleDown gets ignored.

Come on guys. Sounds like a battery enclosure of some sort to me. At the most, it looks like Apple is going to start selling external SuperDrives and include 3rd party DVD-R support with iDVD. (they were just waiting unitl they could make some $$$ on it for themselves.....)

This, to me, seems to be the best explaination.
1) People trust Apple 1st party stuff and will trust an external SuperDrive.
2) Apple can lace it up with FireWire 800 compatibility easily
3) Scince it's already been adapted to the PBG4, we KNOW they can make it 1 inch thin a portable.
4) Now Apple will be even MORE famous for the SuperDrive, and can possibly even market it to other users (PC,Linux,Unix, etc...)

iNewton...come on, gimmie a break. If anything, they are going to try to keep adding orginizer/palm features to the iPod ! Why do you think they gave it such a bland, general name. It's multifunctional, get it.;)

If anything, Apple should go back to making colored iBooks and iPods. I would love them to death if they made color iPods.
 
I sure hope this is an iTablet

I already backup my documents and pictures on an iPod, in addition to my tunes

if I could access EVERYTHING (pics, documents, tunes, movies?) over one small iDevice, then I would TOTALLY buy it!

make it so, Apple!
 
Originally posted by SonicSamurai
iNewton...come on, gimmie a break. If anything, they are going to try to keep adding orginizer/palm features to the iPod ! Why do you think they gave it such a bland, general name. It's multifunctional, get it.
What good is having iCal on my iPod if I can't enter things?!
The iPod's PDA features are hardly spectacular, and there's no way to reasonably turn the iPod into a PDA device without a major design change. Besides the current iPod is about as multi-functional as it can be.

I think an iNewton device, which would be just like a mini-tablet, makes sense. The demand exists, and so does the technology to make it great.

Besides, isn't the fifth anniversary the one where you bury the hatchet and bring back the Newton?
 
Originally posted by SonicSamurai
Come on guys. Sounds like a battery enclosure of some sort to me. At the most, it looks like Apple is going to start selling external SuperDrives and include 3rd party DVD-R support with iDVD. (they were just waiting unitl they could make some $$$ on it for themselves.....)

This, to me, seems to be the best explaination.
1) People trust Apple 1st party stuff and will trust an external SuperDrive.
2) Apple can lace it up with FireWire 800 compatibility easily
3) Scince it's already been adapted to the PBG4, we KNOW they can make it 1 inch thin a portable.
4) Now Apple will be even MORE famous for the SuperDrive, and can possibly even market it to other users (PC,Linux,Unix, etc...)

Damn you and your so-called "logic"! Sensible thinking has no place on a Mac rumor message board.

As reluctant as I am to say it, I agree. Without any info about what goes inside, or why no screen opening has been mentioned, it's most likely to be an external drive or power supply of some sort.
 
iCal updating on .Mac website would be awesome

In addition to being able to add iCal data on my iPod or a similiar PDA device... I'd also really like a way to update my iCal dates on my .Mac account.

One of the reasons I really like(d) the Yahoo calendar set up was I can sync my Office on my PC, my Palm device AND the web site. So if I update or add a date on the Internet from outside the office/or home...it'll update everything the next time I sync.

I lost that capability by adopting the iCal and moving one step further away from the PC.. Its been a limiting problem but I would hope Apple sometime SOON fixes that gap..
 
Holmes-like deductive reasoning: two points to ponder

Two subtle points to ponder on:

- The "source" noted things like a door over openings for ports, but made no mention of an "opening" for a screen. Clearly if, say, one surface of this device were 5"x7" and there were a 4.5"x6.5" opening, it would have been mentioned -- I think we can agree on that. But what if it were a 5-sided enclosure, i.e., 4 sides, bottom, and a non-existent top. Would you necessarily perceive the missing sixth side as an "opening", enough so to mention it? Probably not. Hypothesis: a screen for such a device is part of a (burnished metal?) module which sits inside the 5-sided enclosure, yielding an iWhatever with white plastic all around and a metal top surface with a screen (nice touch!). (And just as easily, of course, it could be a six-sided plastic enclosure for a Superdrive -- just offering up some other ways of thinking of this. :) )

- Whatever those ports are, the designer felt it was appropriate to place them behind a door. Why? Ports which are in use constantly or most of the time are usually not placed behind protective doors -- you wouldn't want to have to keep opening and closing the door, or need to leave it open. Even the iBook's ports are always exposed. Chances are, these ports are meant to be used "occasionally" and protected the rest of the time. This would lean one away from the SuperDrive theory -- its ports would, by design, need to be accessed virtually all the time. Also, the designer wanted to protect the ports from...what? Damage while being carried/moved from one place to another? Most hardware which stays in one place wouldn't require such protection.

So riddle me this...what kind of device would have multiple ports which, most of the time, are not being used? What kind of device would, by design, be moved from one place to another fairly frequently as part of its function?
 
what is this?

I was reading around some forums on thinksecret (think it was thinksecret) and I came accross this image:

6524powerpod.jpg


Yeah its bad quality and i'm fairly sure it's just someones idea of a joke or something complete unrelated. It looks like someones dissasembled an iPod and taken a purposefully bad shot of it. Either that or it's a piece of packaging perhaps? Anyone know where it came from and what it is supposed to be?

If we were to see an iPod/Newton PDA gadget I think this would be the form factor i'd like it to be.
 
iClicker

I think that this is going to be Steve Job's iClicker. You know, the ne he uses with Keynote at the MacWorld Expos... It could b e fun...
 
Re: Holmes-like deductive reasoning: two points to ponder

Originally posted by Teqanjel
Two subtle points to ponder on:

- The "source" noted things like a door over openings for ports, but made no mention of an "opening" for a screen...

- Whatever those ports are, the designer felt it was appropriate to place them behind a door. Why? ...

So riddle me this...what kind of device would have multiple ports which, most of the time, are not being used? What kind of device would, by design, be moved from one place to another fairly frequently as part of its function?

And add to that: What kind of device would non-Mac PC owners find irresitable enough to want to buy?

Overall, a 5x7x1 form factor is starting to get pretty big (it won't fit in my shirt pocket), and as you fill up the enclosure, its going to start to get pretty heavy too (contrast it with the weight of an old Apple 3.5" floppy drive: 4x6x1).

I think we can pretty much discount and eliminate most plug-in peripherals, such as a Superdrive, etc, particularly since we already know that that the common PC ownership trait is to buy on price.

Perhaps a better question to ask ourselves is: what existing consumer electronics are out there that are roughly this form factor? The only thing I came up with is a Digital Video camera, such as the sweet little $1200 ones that Sony currently offers.

That application would appeal to non-Mac users, it would explain why the ports are hidden behind a door, and the form factor's approximately correct. Apple could use an internal 20-40MB hard drive in lieu of DV tape, which elminates a lot of moving parts, and is probably faster to download via Firewire800. The open side could be where the battery pack attaches, and the only open question is: "where's the lens?"

Well, I thought I had read that this was a clear enclosure, somewhere. As such, you don't need to have a hole drilled through it for optics.

The Apple "iVideo" camera, with nearly no moving parts.


-hh
 
iCheap!

With the eMac on the way out, Apple needs to fill the desktop low end with a small, inexpensive, modular OSX box. This is it! I'm positive!

Well, hopeful anyway. :p
 
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