New potential user - questions, comments, thoughts, etc.

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by iceman718, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. iceman718 macrumors newbie

    Jul 20, 2010
    Hey guys,

    So it's about time I upgrade from my little Samsung flip phone by now. I've decided to go the smartphone route, and I'm torn between devices at this point, namely the iPhone 4 and the Samsung Captivate. I apologize for the length of this post, but I'm a college student spending my hard earned money on this phone and the data plan to go with it, so it's very important for me to get something that'll last me two years. I can't afford to upgrade every time something better comes out, so I'm looking at what's high end right now, and I don't want to regret my decision later.

    I've been following the release of both phones pretty closely and have been reading these forums and Android forums a lot. Here's the story:

    When the new iPhone was introduced, I was highly considering buying it. With all the new features, it's the first iPhone I'd even thought about. Then all the problems started coming out, and I was glad I hadn't preordered it. Then I read about the Samsung Captivate and I like it as well. So here are some of my thoughts and comments about each. I know this is an iPhone forum, so I'm just going to ask to try to keep the fanboy talk and Android bashing to a minimum, and help me make the best decision FOR ME.

    I want a phone that'll basically do anything I want it to do quickly. The majority of the time, it will be used for web browsing on wifi, checking email, texting, and making calls. I don't game a whole lot, but if I've got some free time, they're fun - just like reading stupid stuff like TFLN. I want something smooth, fast, and fairly customizable. I charge my phone every night, so it's gotta be able to last one full day with moderate use.

    So for the iPhone 4... I really like the sharp display. No disputing it's the highest resolution right now. It really looks great. I am familiar with iOS (I own an iPod Touch) and it's definitely nice and simple. Not a fan of how locked it all is, so if I get it, I'll definitely jailbreak it. I like the new camera and iOS4, but I'm concerned about durability. I'm definitely careful with my stuff (don't think I've ever dropped my Touch) but still, the whole outside of the phone is made of glass. The only protection I'd want for my new phone is an InvisibleShield type film. I'm also concerned about the reception issue. Whenever I browse the web on my Touch, I hold it in my left hand covering the weak spot. Yeah, I know it happens on other phones too, but that doesn't make me any less concerned about it. Also, question for those with proximity sensor issues... is it a problem ALL the time? Or every once in a while? The one I played with at the AT&T store today didn't seem to have any of the 4 major issues during the time I messed with it. (which is weird because last week when I went in I could easily reproduce the reception issue, but not today..)

    CLIFFS... like the display, like the new features, like the OS (when jailbroken), concerned about problems, concerned about durability, not sure about how I like the ergonomics of the sharper edges (kinda hard to tell with the big anti-theft device stuck to the back of it).

    Now for the Samsung Captivate... it's also got a gorgeous and larger display. I'm not really familiar with Android, but from playing with it a bit at the store, I like it. It'll get Froyo soon enough, and meets the requirements for Gingerbread, so even if Samsung doesn't release it, someone will make 3.0 run on the Captivate. It seems pretty easy to tweak things to make it a lot smoother. I like how open it is, and I like the widgets that give a bunch of info without having to open an app. I like the look of the phone, the camera is good, and I really like the Swype keyboard. It seems more durable than the iPhone, but it also has an issue with losing reception when held a certain way. I also haven't had any experience with Android apps. The only ones on the demo unit were the ones that come with the phone. Accessories, apps, etc aren't nearly as universal as with the iPhone, and the phone to computer integration doesn't seem as seamless.

    Cliffs... like the screen, like the OS, like the look and feel and features, concerned about reception issue, not sure about apps.
    I'll probably think of more later but for now, based on what I've said and your experience, which do you think is better for me? I'll definately end up making my own decision, but I certainly value the opinions of people more knowledgable about the whole smartphone game. Seems some of you guys even have multiple smartphones on multiple carriers, and I'd really like to hear your thoughts and explanations, especially those who aren't totally loyal to iOS or Android exclusively.

    I really appreciate your input, and I appreciate the 2 or 3 people who will actually read my whole post.

  2. ClutchThese macrumors 65816


    Jun 25, 2010
    Alexandria, VA
    naturally most people here like the iPhone. Honestly i like the iphone the most...that's why i bought it. if you are mostly concerned about surfing the net, checking email and an occasional game...they are all capable to doing them at amazing speeds. If you like AT&T, the iPhone is the way to go. the retina display is simply amazing. the usability of the iOS, to me, surpasses all the other phones. Just my two pennies.
  3. ToroidalZeus macrumors 68020


    Dec 8, 2009
    If you plan on mostly using safari, mail, messages and phone then why do you care about how locked it is? That's exactly that the iPhone is great at normally.

    As for fast and smooth the iPhone beats every android at that, customizable not so much but really is that worth a more buggy/laggy OS?

    The bottom-line is at this point the iPhone 4 + Bumper > any other phone.
  4. whocaresit macrumors 6502a

    Jul 18, 2010
    Unless you plan on holding the iPhone in an unusual unnatural way, the iPhone 4 is not recommended at this point.
  5. ClutchThese macrumors 65816


    Jun 25, 2010
    Alexandria, VA
    he prolly didn't even read your post...don't listen to the troll.
  6. whocaresit macrumors 6502a

    Jul 18, 2010
    When considering it's software prowess / apps / accessories.
    iPhone 4 is the undisputed king.

    The iPhone 4 feels like a heavy brick. But the screen's amazing.

    And then there's the antenna troubles.
  7. Snowman3459 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 15, 2010
    Sounds like a iPhone 4 could be right for you.

    It's VERY fast and will get every thing you need done quickly.

    The reception issue, personally, I don't have any. However new batches of iPhones seem to be fixed (but none of that is confirmed)

    The proximity sensor is still an issue, and it will be fixed in the next update.

    Durability wise, yeah it is pretty fragile. I have a nice little crack on the back of my phone. BUT it's not tooooo bad. I recommend a case.

    Honestly, it's probably the best phone I've ever owned. In fact, it is.
  8. Es Paul macrumors member

    Jul 9, 2010
    I've had mine for a week, coming from a blackberry curve.

    This thing is crazy fast and a lot of fun for a phone. I can't put mine down because of all of the capabilities it has. I recommend it, if that means anything
  9. whocaresit macrumors 6502a

    Jul 18, 2010
    Are you able to make phone calls? :confused:
  10. iceman718 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 20, 2010

    I say locked mostly from a customization standpoint, rather than 3rd party app standpoint. My 3rd gen iPod Touch is jailbroken, and the only jailbroken apps I use are MxTube, SBSettings and Winterboard. I like having a custom theme so it looks how I want it to and not like every other one out there. I can SSH into it and add my own icons, change names of apps, etc. Little things to make it more how I want. Also adds additional functionality that I like, which would only be expanded when moving to the phone over the iPod (tethering, etc)

    So that's some of the appeal of Android - being able to make it different and my own. And the fact that it's not an iPhone lol. I couldn't care less about what's cool or in style, and I'm not going to be a fanboy for either one, I just want what's best.

    Anyone who has some decent experience with both? Probably not the Captivate specifically since it's so new, but perhaps another high end Android device?
  11. Es Paul macrumors member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Yes, lots of them. Like, everyday man. It's a phone dude:cool:
  12. Fernandez21 macrumors 601


    Jun 16, 2010
    Well, i don't have much expierence with andriod and I'm not a fan of it, but after reading your post it definately seems you would be happier with the captivate. You already have a touch, the iphone 4 is basically that on a better screen and zippier. Though if you can you should try to wait a couple of months, september-october a bunch of new phones coming out for the holidays and you might prefer one of those. I belive one HTC is like the touch pro 2 but running andriod, you got the dell phones comng out, windows phone 7 coming out, and hey maybe by then the iPhone will have all the kinks sorted out.
  13. weespeed macrumors 6502

    Jul 9, 2010
    I have an iphone4 and Droid.

    The iPhone4 is cool and all, great display apps and everything, but I really miss my jailbroken 3GS. Miss biteSMS, SBSsettings, etc..

    I sold the 3GS and used the Droid while waiting for the iPhone4.
    I was really impressed by the Droid. Love the screen, remember the things been out for almost a year, compared to my 3GS. I mean it blows the 3GS away, and actually not too shabby next to the iP4.
    I love the widgets and notifications too. Also the way google integrates with it is really cool. Sign in to Gmail, and boom everything is on your phone. I wish my iphone did this.

    And yes I do have the reception/antenna problem, but it's not that bad. I've dropped about 5 calls since I've had it from Jun 26..

    With that said, nothing beats the touch and smoothness of the iPhone4. The way the scrolling and how apps are opened closed etc, so smooth. Also the apps.. Nothing beats the appstore.

    From your post it sounds like you should wait for a jailbreak for the iP4 or go to android. If I knew for a fact that the iP4 can't or won't be jailbroken, I would sell it and use my Droid full time.

    That's just my opinion. Hope that helps.
  14. hipvamore macrumors regular

    Jul 2, 2008
    you're posting on an iphone forum... so iphone duhh. and if you get one you can spend all your time on macrumors like we all do!

    but seriously. iphone all the way. dont worry about the problems, people just like to complain
  15. Bobby Corwen macrumors 68030

    Jul 16, 2010
    Get the iPhone, its the best all in one device ever conceived in the history of our existence! Im so excited for you!
  16. iceman718 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 20, 2010
    Yeah, I just kind of assumed that there will be a full untethered jailbreak for iPhone 4 / iOS4. Would be kind of a dealbreaker for me if not. Also, while you were using the Droid, was there ever a time you wanted an app but it simply didn't exist in the marketplace?

    And yes, I know this is an iPhone forum, and I have a similar thread going at an Android forum. Just want some real world user opinions.
  17. weespeed macrumors 6502

    Jul 9, 2010
    Never had a problem finding apps on the marketplace. The problem is there's like 10 of every app. So it was hard to decide which one to download. O found myself downloading 2 or 3 different apps that do the same thing then kept the one I like the best.
  18. iceman718 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 20, 2010
    Sounds pretty similar to the App Store lol.

    Anyway, thanks for your reply. Anyone else have any compelling input why I should choose the iPhone over the Captivate?
  19. ClutchThese macrumors 65816


    Jun 25, 2010
    Alexandria, VA
    if you chose the captive, everyone's going to ask "Why didn't you get the iPhone?" :) not that thats a big deal, i'm just saying.
  20. mlts22 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 28, 2008
    Two reasons that sold me:

    1: Docks. Car docks, docks for clock radios, docks on TVs, etc. A 32GB iPhone can store a decent amount of music. You can also stream stuff via, Pandora, or another utility.

    2: Apps. There is a reason one slogan for the iPhone is "there is an app for that". iPhone apps are well done. Android appmakers have a tough fight when they write code. They don't just have to worry about four essentially standard phones, but easily hundreds of models. Some models may be faster and have AMOLED screens, but stuck at Android 1.5. Others may have an slow 500MHz CPU, but are running Android 2.2. Some phones are rooted, so it is good to take advantage of that fact.
  21. iceman718 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 20, 2010
    As evidenced by other threads here, it sounds like there are plenty of people who laugh at those who bought the new iPhone.

    But like you said, and what I said earlier, I couldn't care less what other people think about my new phone, lol. Doesn't matter. Just want what'll be the best for me.

    As far as docks/standardized connectors go, I already have a 64GB iPod Touch that I currently use for web, music in my car, and an old Nano to plug into my iHome. Side note.. the fact that they changed something in the connector on the iPhone/Touch so that it can't charge with certain accessories is lame. My car stereo has an iPod hookup, and I used to leave my nano in there all the time and it would just stay charged, but the Touch sounds better and can actually hold all 1,200 or so songs (16.5 gigs) but it won't charge.

    I keep hearing the app argument but I haven't been able to actually play with any Android apps to pass judgment at this point.
  22. Givmeabrek macrumors 68040


    Apr 20, 2009
    Almost had a troll free discussion.

    Love my iP4. :)
  23. ClutchThese macrumors 65816


    Jun 25, 2010
    Alexandria, VA
    #23 while we sit here and tell you why we like one vs the other, it's up to you.

    Like the post just above you just wrote...the iphone has soooo many extra accessories and apps you can get to perform anything you want. i honestly think people who buy other phones do it in spite...just to be different. oh well, their choice.
  24. Apple... macrumors 68020


    May 6, 2010
    The United States
    These two links should help: (iPhone 4) (Samsung Galaxy S Captivate)

    For comparison, the :apple: iPhone 4 scores higher than the Captivate. :)
  25. spblat macrumors 6502a


    Jun 18, 2010
    Unless I'm mistaken your 64GB Touch has a very fast processor, comparable to the iPhone 3GS. So you're probably already on iOS 4 and very familiar with it. iPhone 4, as you know, is your Touch with a moderately faster processor, a mind-blowing display, a phone and a very nice camera. Unless iOS annoys you for some reason my advice is to sell the touch (and live with a smaller music collection on the go) and take the iP4 plunge. Since you haven't done this yet it seems like something about this choice is bothering you. If it's the antenna and the proximity sensor, go for it and remember that 30 day guarantee. I run my phone naked and don't suffer from reception issues. The proximity issue is very annoying but I am confident Apple will fix it soon.

    I switched from Blackberry+iPod to iPhone two years ago. While I have been watching Android with interest my experience has been such that I've never been tempted to consider a switch.

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