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New PowerBooks this Week?
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It doesn't matter if it stays Page 2 or not. Some page 2 rumors have become true without enough reliable sources to promote them to Page 1 rumors.Stoffel said:
All that really matters is what actually happens tomorrow.
mrgreen4242 said:
I'd heard that too, and was surprised at how hot that 12" PB gets ... although I suspect that it has a lot to do with the disk as that corner of the PB is the warmest. I've noticed that my iPod gets a little warmer than I would have thought after long use.
When Apple manages to get a G5 into a PowerBook, I figure that will finally update enough technologies over the old TiBook to perhaps justify an upgrade (especially since this would also mean Panther and the new iLife! wheeee!). Luckily, as a non-pro user, I'm quite happy with the TiBook and can wait as long as need be. 
buying Strategy
I agree with Tomaz.
- I've to an oldish 500mhzPB.
If a new PB g5 comes out, I'm not sure I want version 1. at least till it's 3 months old, as to see the reliability reports.
Buying strategy:
- 2004: Buy, the next revision of the PB G4 -- hopefully 1.5.
- 2005: buy the 20 inch display -- that I can use with the PB.
- 2006: buy a new G5 976 desktop -- based upon the Dual Core IBM Power6.
- 2007: buy a new IBook w/o superdrive, for portability, as I've got a great desktop.
Ah, that was a great dream.
I agree with Tomaz.
- I've to an oldish 500mhzPB.
If a new PB g5 comes out, I'm not sure I want version 1. at least till it's 3 months old, as to see the reliability reports.
Buying strategy:
- 2004: Buy, the next revision of the PB G4 -- hopefully 1.5.
- 2005: buy the 20 inch display -- that I can use with the PB.
- 2006: buy a new G5 976 desktop -- based upon the Dual Core IBM Power6.
- 2007: buy a new IBook w/o superdrive, for portability, as I've got a great desktop.
Ah, that was a great dream.
Well, I understand that you may be tired of hearing people ask for G5 PowerBooks, but I don't think it's silly for them to ask. The portable line could use a faster/better processor and the G5 seems to be the only future. So, it's not silly, it's great. I also dont think there's anything wrong with wanting it now.. Just because you don't, doesn't mean there's anythign wrong with it. I think the more we ask, that faster we may receive, but we're all aware that it's an engineering feat.....Trowaman said:
I have to wonder why everyone wants to screw themselves with respect to memory configuration on the 12" machine. Last I knew this was soldered in memory, a good thing on laptops, so why not go directly to 512 meg soldered in.
Some of your other parameters are a toss up but the memory issue has rubbed me the wrong way for some time with repect to Apple products. This is one place where Apple could significantly add to their machines without incuring a huge expense. Instead Apple just milks its current market of dweebs and laughs all the way to the bank. Maybe the continual slid in market share will change their perspective a bit - ya I know not a chance.
Dave
This would produce a very nice machine that would work well with OS/X. It would also be a machine that you could upgrade memory wise without feeling as if it is a losing proposition finacially.
Some of your other parameters are a toss up but the memory issue has rubbed me the wrong way for some time with repect to Apple products. This is one place where Apple could significantly add to their machines without incuring a huge expense. Instead Apple just milks its current market of dweebs and laughs all the way to the bank. Maybe the continual slid in market share will change their perspective a bit - ya I know not a chance.
Dave
This would produce a very nice machine that would work well with OS/X. It would also be a machine that you could upgrade memory wise without feeling as if it is a losing proposition finacially.
atari1356 said:
*yawns* Hmm PowerBook revisions? Wake me when the system bus stops being the bottleneck in the system then we will talk about performance. Until then 167Mhz sucks massive horse butt. The level of patheticness is staring to creep up in the powerbook line.
The level of patheticness is staring to creep up in the powerbook line.
No way
No way. Even if they are right about the update this time, there is NO way that Apple has enough steam left in the G4 lineup to do ANOTHER speed bump before the G5 PowerBook. I tend to believe that the G5 PowerBook will be announced at the same time, or near, the updated 3GHz G5 PowerMac.
I think the iMac and iBook will be updated at a consumer oriented "event", with the iMac going G5 and the iBook staying with the G4.
Macrumors said:
No way. Even if they are right about the update this time, there is NO way that Apple has enough steam left in the G4 lineup to do ANOTHER speed bump before the G5 PowerBook. I tend to believe that the G5 PowerBook will be announced at the same time, or near, the updated 3GHz G5 PowerMac.
I think the iMac and iBook will be updated at a consumer oriented "event", with the iMac going G5 and the iBook staying with the G4.
wizard said:
Umm sorry I think you have a typo in your post. Instead of good should be stupid. As in any company that company that soldered memory in is a stupid moronic company. Thankfully you are incorrect. The DIMM is in a SO-DIMM slot easily upgradeable.
Hm, two more G4 revisions. I don't think so. Even if new PBs were launched tomorrow, we would only see another G4 revision in September/October if PB G5 were not ready for MWSF 05. If Apple can announce G5s at MWSF, they will keep Rev. C until then. (A placeholder upgrade for two or three months doesn't make any sense at all). I think they won't change much, I wouldn't be surprised if the 12" kept the Go5200 w/ 32 MB VRAM and 133 MHz bus speed. No backlit keyboard either. They're not redisigning the PBs they're just upgrading them a bit (faster CPU, perhaps new graphics card for the 15" and the 17").
Personally, I'm suspicious - although it makes sense that Apple would introduce new Powerbooks now that the trade-in has ended, no one else is pointing to new pro 'Books tomorrow, not even the wholly fictional MOSR. Considering that it also would've made sense for Apple to have introduced speed-bumped G5's by now, I'm very skeptical.
Yeah, I mourn the old Powerpage. The site has turned into a kludgy collection of wacky rumor speculation, un-newsworthy reader posts and cell phone reviews. And the fact that Jason's member login database hasn't worked right in more than two years makes it less than worthwhile to attempt logins or re-registration.JtheLemur said:Off-topic... anyone remember when PowerPage was a decent site? Boy, that was back in the day. So sad - barely a single comment on any of the stories, etc.
I doubt the 12" PB would go to 1.25 GHz without having a new chip (i.e. not using the current high end 15" chip) because I thinkthe current chip will be too hot. The left palm rest of my 12" PowerBook is normally cool to warm but the only thing that gets remotely hot is the area above the F2 and F3 keys next to the microphone and left side of the hinge - that's where the CPU is. Although you don't touch that part, I can't see it getting much hotter without warping the hinge and bottom of the screen/lid.
Given the info on the 7447's:
"At 1.42GHz, the chip consumes 20W of power, Motorola claims, which compares well to the 7447's 21.3W at 1.33GHz. The company also mentions a lower power version of the 7447A that consumes less than 9.3W at 1.167GHz, which seems no better than the old 7447's claimed 7.5W at 1GHz. The low-power 7447A has a core voltage of 1.1V; the regular 7447A runs at 1.3V.
Essentially, the 7447A is a revised 7447, itself a low-power version of the 7457. The 130nm 7447 is currently used by Apple in its PowerBook G4. The iBook is based on the older 7455. The 7447 is a trimmed down version of the 7457, losing the latter's support for external L3 cache. The 7457 and both versions of the 7447 contain 512KB of on-die L2 cache. All three are fabbed using silicon on insulator technology."
. . . wouldn't it run a bit cooler?
"At 1.42GHz, the chip consumes 20W of power, Motorola claims, which compares well to the 7447's 21.3W at 1.33GHz. The company also mentions a lower power version of the 7447A that consumes less than 9.3W at 1.167GHz, which seems no better than the old 7447's claimed 7.5W at 1GHz. The low-power 7447A has a core voltage of 1.1V; the regular 7447A runs at 1.3V.
Essentially, the 7447A is a revised 7447, itself a low-power version of the 7457. The 130nm 7447 is currently used by Apple in its PowerBook G4. The iBook is based on the older 7455. The 7447 is a trimmed down version of the 7457, losing the latter's support for external L3 cache. The 7457 and both versions of the 7447 contain 512KB of on-die L2 cache. All three are fabbed using silicon on insulator technology."
. . . wouldn't it run a bit cooler?
these ppl are selling 64bit ultrasparc III laptop...
tadpole computers
...and seem to be crunching an opteron based laptop
so, ::shooting from the hip:: if apple launches anything, it should be a 17" laptop sitting above the current pb range for ppl that can afford the new gadgetry and it's attendant glitches (read niche markets) ... thus ironing out any design flaws in that model before launching onto the lowly powerbooks.
maybe a portable, realtime 3d renderer that integrates live footage into renderman for previews during shooting... or a portable weather forecaster tied to a portable doppler radar that can predict weather conditions 15 minutes before they happen...
tadpole computers
...and seem to be crunching an opteron based laptop
so, ::shooting from the hip:: if apple launches anything, it should be a 17" laptop sitting above the current pb range for ppl that can afford the new gadgetry and it's attendant glitches (read niche markets) ... thus ironing out any design flaws in that model before launching onto the lowly powerbooks.
maybe a portable, realtime 3d renderer that integrates live footage into renderman for previews during shooting... or a portable weather forecaster tied to a portable doppler radar that can predict weather conditions 15 minutes before they happen...
might make sense...
Actually a new PB might make perfect sense NEXT week. I'm buying a refurb this Friday after waiting for months, so an upgrade should be happening just after that...
Actually a new PB might make perfect sense NEXT week. I'm buying a refurb this Friday after waiting for months, so an upgrade should be happening just after that...
SiliconAddict said:
Ditto. I can't see the premium price for the performance we are currently getting out of the Powerbook. I plan on buying a new iBook in early August. If the ibook is updated by then, great. If not, such is life.
No G4 powerbook for me. No revision one G5 for me either, so -- I am caught in an iBook reality.
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