I heard that the G3 processor could go up to over 1ghz, so they should put a fater processor in the iBook. The G3 is plenty fast so i dont think the iBook will get a G4 anytime soon. They shoyuld also change their designs to make them more durable because the original iBook was defintely more durable then the white one
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dongmin
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why? what's wrong with the current one? yeah Apple could do a lot to up the graphics card, cpu, etc., but design-wise and feature-wise, it's solid.
if anything, I'd like to see an ultra-portable, the 12" PB without the optical drive. Shave off a .5 inch here and there and a pound or so of weight. Make it a true complement to the new desktops.
I'm waitng patiently for the bloody 15.4" to come out but If it does'nt come out by August/Sept., then I'll go 17"! No biggie, (or maybe it is).
Re: ibook
There is also the possibility that the G4 will NEVER make it into the ibook.
IBM has quite a roadmap for the G3 while moto has dragged on the G4's.
So many people feel the G4's are a better chip, but i have to say that i think the G3 has way more potential given the strength of IBM and their commitment to R&D for desktop chips.
There is also the possibility that the G4 will NEVER make it into the ibook.
IBM has quite a roadmap for the G3 while moto has dragged on the G4's.
So many people feel the G4's are a better chip, but i have to say that i think the G3 has way more potential given the strength of IBM and their commitment to R&D for desktop chips.
Re: Re: SuperDrive
no, they're currently 1x...
4x would be great, but 2x more likely...
Remember slot-loading DVD-R drives were only released last December, and that was a shock when they were released, as there were rumours at that time that they were still atleast a year away...
no, they're currently 1x...
4x would be great, but 2x more likely...
Remember slot-loading DVD-R drives were only released last December, and that was a shock when they were released, as there were rumours at that time that they were still atleast a year away...
Jerry Spoon
macrumors 6502a
Do you think a lot of people are renewing their .mac membership? 😕 I'm thinking they won't announce these numbers b/c I think there will be a significant drop. What's significant? I don't know. Any guesses out there?
Re: Re: Re: SuperDrive
2X will be fine then, thought the current were a little faster no biggie, doesnt matter too much for a portable, all that you will really do with it is backup data and the occasional dvd creation...
Lighted Keyboard would be nice too but i dought that will happen it will make it too much like the 17" IMHO
2X will be fine then, thought the current were a little faster no biggie, doesnt matter too much for a portable, all that you will really do with it is backup data and the occasional dvd creation...
Lighted Keyboard would be nice too but i dought that will happen it will make it too much like the 17" IMHO
Quote: Maybe a 15" update - but I don't know if that warrants a trade show? It's not a big leap since the 12" and 17" are already there. I'm expecting a relatively quiet update to the 15".
Well, the trade show will go on regardless of whether a PB upgrade 'warrants it' or not, since it is not an Apple expo, and Apple has no say in its organization.
Also, someone mentioned that it would be good to move the internal drive in the 12" PB to make the palm rest cooler. IMHO this is highly unlikey - it is far from a trivial problem and would require the entire book to be reengineered.
Well, the trade show will go on regardless of whether a PB upgrade 'warrants it' or not, since it is not an Apple expo, and Apple has no say in its organization.
Also, someone mentioned that it would be good to move the internal drive in the 12" PB to make the palm rest cooler. IMHO this is highly unlikey - it is far from a trivial problem and would require the entire book to be reengineered.
originaly posted by thirteenva:
There is also the possibility that the G4 will NEVER make it into the ibook.
IBM has quite a roadmap for the G3 while moto has dragged on the G4's.
So many people feel the G4's are a better chip, but i have to say that i think the G3 has way more potential given the strength of IBM and their commitment to R&D for desktop chips.
I agree with you, it seems as though the G3 has much more potential. The G4 is nothing special
There is also the possibility that the G4 will NEVER make it into the ibook.
IBM has quite a roadmap for the G3 while moto has dragged on the G4's.
So many people feel the G4's are a better chip, but i have to say that i think the G3 has way more potential given the strength of IBM and their commitment to R&D for desktop chips.
I agree with you, it seems as though the G3 has much more potential. The G4 is nothing special
detachable screen
the rumors i've read about detacable imac tablet type things sound increadably useful in a new creative type enviroment and this would be the smartest and greatest move by apple for their creative expo release.
yes it would.
the rumors i've read about detacable imac tablet type things sound increadably useful in a new creative type enviroment and this would be the smartest and greatest move by apple for their creative expo release.
yes it would.
Another headless Mac
I am just hoping for a cheaper, headless mac. Maybe then I can afford to switch. Hopefully alot of new hardware products will be announced since the hardware dude is doing the keynote thingy.
I am just hoping for a cheaper, headless mac. Maybe then I can afford to switch. Hopefully alot of new hardware products will be announced since the hardware dude is doing the keynote thingy.
jbomber
macrumors 6502a
Re: detachable screen
I dunno. that seems like a pretty big move (read: something Steve would almost certainly want to/have to introduce)
It's more likely that Joz is giving the presentation because there's a minor update to the PB line, if there's an update at all.
If there isn't an update, I hope he's getting hazard pay. There'll be a ton of disappointed/angry mac users in the audience.
I dunno. that seems like a pretty big move (read: something Steve would almost certainly want to/have to introduce)
It's more likely that Joz is giving the presentation because there's a minor update to the PB line, if there's an update at all.
If there isn't an update, I hope he's getting hazard pay. There'll be a ton of disappointed/angry mac users in the audience.
Mokona
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Regarding the powerbooks
To Apple, a 15" update wouldn't be that big (unless they put a g5 in it, when I quizzed an apple representative during a g5 demo in stockholm he quickly replied "you shouldn't expect one this year") so for Jozwiak to do the launch is quite probable.
Hopefully they'll do an update of the 12" and 17" as well. If they don't the pricelevels will have to drop. It is in apples best interest to keep the price/performance ratio between the three models constant (since it seems to maximise profits for all three models).
Powerbook updates are usually not that big a deal. There certainly wasnt that much commotion when they updated the 15" from rev b to rev c.
I'm getting uncertain of the validity of the 15,4" rumor. Maybe they need the extra bulk of the chassis to squeeze something in, but making the screen bigger could jeopardize the 17"-market. Granted, there is a 1,6" difference, but still.
(What I would like to see is an apple response to windows mobile 2003, but that will NEVER happen, Apples PDA ventures died with the newton.)
Just a quick analysis by the market analyst...
/MoKoNa^
To Apple, a 15" update wouldn't be that big (unless they put a g5 in it, when I quizzed an apple representative during a g5 demo in stockholm he quickly replied "you shouldn't expect one this year") so for Jozwiak to do the launch is quite probable.
Hopefully they'll do an update of the 12" and 17" as well. If they don't the pricelevels will have to drop. It is in apples best interest to keep the price/performance ratio between the three models constant (since it seems to maximise profits for all three models).
Powerbook updates are usually not that big a deal. There certainly wasnt that much commotion when they updated the 15" from rev b to rev c.
I'm getting uncertain of the validity of the 15,4" rumor. Maybe they need the extra bulk of the chassis to squeeze something in, but making the screen bigger could jeopardize the 17"-market. Granted, there is a 1,6" difference, but still.
(What I would like to see is an apple response to windows mobile 2003, but that will NEVER happen, Apples PDA ventures died with the newton.)
Just a quick analysis by the market analyst...
/MoKoNa^
he's the hardware guy, so i'm sure it will be a lot of them flexing the G5's muscles, maybe even more focused on the creative apps. I'm sure they will have G5s out for people to try out and some under glass for people to inspect the innards. I would expect to see a lit of iSight things setup with iChatAV running.
As for the 15inch PB, it seems due anytime now. If the older ones are adequately gone then they may unleash them next week, or a few weeks later. I would think sooner than later.... but then again who knows. If it's "the year of the laptop", i would think we can expect it before christmas? the sooner they update it, the more likely Steve can revamp them at MWSanFran too. Unless i am forgetting somehting, the 12inch and 17inch were last revamped in January, so they are aboput due as well (if you follow the general product cycle).
As for the 15inch PB, it seems due anytime now. If the older ones are adequately gone then they may unleash them next week, or a few weeks later. I would think sooner than later.... but then again who knows. If it's "the year of the laptop", i would think we can expect it before christmas? the sooner they update it, the more likely Steve can revamp them at MWSanFran too. Unless i am forgetting somehting, the 12inch and 17inch were last revamped in January, so they are aboput due as well (if you follow the general product cycle).
I'm curious to see how Apple handles updating the 15" to the Al series. On one hand they "need" to bump GPU to nVidia to match its brothers and CPU to make buying it worth while. I believe it's possible Apple will update the 15" to Al (case, FW800, BT, no keyboard light, seems like a 17" only thing to me) and then go to say 1.2ghz and do a bump on the 17" to 1.2ghz also (so apple can still sell the 1ghz for less money dont change anything else). And the Superdrive is 1x and it's a shame (ok the real shame is CD-RW performance...)
Re: Re: detachable screen
well even if Steve Jobs was there, you figure he would pretty much give the same presentation he gave last month, but without the G5 shock. I would assume they will maybe revamp the keynote a bit to cater to creative people as opposed to developers. there may be more demos of apps and whatnot.
a speedbump to the 15" powerbook is not huge news, even if they brought it up to 17" pb specs and upped all the processors a little.... still might not get stage time. i don't see them introducing anything super crazy since the 12" and 17" cases are only 6 months old. then again, it's not like Apple hasn't shocked us all at some point.
well even if Steve Jobs was there, you figure he would pretty much give the same presentation he gave last month, but without the G5 shock. I would assume they will maybe revamp the keynote a bit to cater to creative people as opposed to developers. there may be more demos of apps and whatnot.
a speedbump to the 15" powerbook is not huge news, even if they brought it up to 17" pb specs and upped all the processors a little.... still might not get stage time. i don't see them introducing anything super crazy since the 12" and 17" cases are only 6 months old. then again, it's not like Apple hasn't shocked us all at some point.
Nvidia 440 v Radeon 9000
Master X:
The current GPU in the 15" (ATI MR 9000) is better than the GPU in the 17" (Nvidia 440Go) and much better than the GPU in the 12" (420). If anything the GPUs in these machines need to be upgraded to at least match the 9000. Either by upgrading to at least an Nvidia 4200 Go or putting in 9000/9200 on all three platforms.
See e.g., http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/print/0,23102,3402261,00.html (comparison in PC laptops but still valid).
If the 15.4" has a 440 in it, I am buying the Titanium.
Cheers
Master X:
The current GPU in the 15" (ATI MR 9000) is better than the GPU in the 17" (Nvidia 440Go) and much better than the GPU in the 12" (420). If anything the GPUs in these machines need to be upgraded to at least match the 9000. Either by upgrading to at least an Nvidia 4200 Go or putting in 9000/9200 on all three platforms.
See e.g., http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/print/0,23102,3402261,00.html (comparison in PC laptops but still valid).
If the 15.4" has a 440 in it, I am buying the Titanium.
Cheers
Re: Nvidia 440 v Radeon 9000
I agree of course, but I was pointing out that Apple will undoubtedly continue their trent of nVidia migration in the powerbook series (unless we're lucky, I always preferred ATi- at least they seem to put effort into their drivers)
I agree of course, but I was pointing out that Apple will undoubtedly continue their trent of nVidia migration in the powerbook series (unless we're lucky, I always preferred ATi- at least they seem to put effort into their drivers)
Oops! Misunderstand.
Yes, you´re right. Migration to NVIDIA seems....inevitable. Too bad because an ATI 9600Pro would be awfully nice in a PB...
Cheers,
Yes, you´re right. Migration to NVIDIA seems....inevitable. Too bad because an ATI 9600Pro would be awfully nice in a PB...
Cheers,
