New Refresh , Still only Glossy

Discussion in 'iMac' started by Drago89, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. Drago89 macrumors member

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    Is it so really hard for apple to offer anti-glare option for the imac ? The Macbook pros got it, so why not apple just add that feature to the imac also? They just need to replace the glass in front of the screen with some surface which is not reflective - BAM.Everyone is happy :) Not everyone like glossy screens, but i guess Steve is so obsessed with that glossy thing that he forgot that :D While most laptops these days are with glossy screens more of the screens are still Matte.New ACD also coming to replace the 30 inch - and what ? Still only glossy . why ?
     
  2. TheBritishBloke macrumors 68030

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    Because it would make the iMac look stupid. If they're selling millions of units with glossy screens, then they aren't going to care.

    I also believe that the only reason they offered a matte option on the MacBook Pro's Is because they are portable computers, so you're likely to be using it outdoors at some point, whereas the iMac is a desktop so it should stay indoors, so there should be no issues with a glossy.

    Glossy offers superior colour and clarity, matte just looks cheap.

    Just buy the glossy, and be happy with it.
     
  3. GyroFX macrumors 6502

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    are there color matching issues with glossy? i thought there were some problems related to that?
     
  4. TheBritishBloke macrumors 68030

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    No? All the colours come true to life In glossy, whereas matte lightens colours so aren't suitable for any design work.
     
  5. CampDavid macrumors member

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    THis is undoubtedly the reason why. That said, I'd find a Matt screen useful for me
     
  6. GyroFX macrumors 6502

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    i guess i wouldn't know as i don't normally use glossy for design. I just got my iMac so i guess i should test it out for myself
     
  7. Kebabselector macrumors 68030

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    Except you do see reflections in the glass, that's why I didn't exchange my faulty iMac.

    Your opinion, others may vary.
     
  8. chimpchimp macrumors newbie

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    i never had a problem with the glossiness of the imac. i tot it was cool unless u guys have some inferiority complex with staring at ur own reflections? hahaha :D
     
  9. Kebabselector macrumors 68030

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    I'm happy for you.

    fail
     
  10. chrono1081 macrumors 604

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    +1

    There is always this big myth going around (that I admit, I bought into at first) that "matte is better for photo editing and graphic design".

    It wasn't until I tried it myself when I realized that statement was waaay wrong (actually a friend showed me first and then I went on to show others).

    Seriously try it, you'll be impressed. Use your colorimeter on a glossy and matte display, calibrate your printer and compare your prints. The glossy screens match the prints far better then the matte. (Even when printing matte paper)
     
  11. Btom macrumors 6502a

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    And that is why the professional displays have matte screens...

    Tom B.
     
  12. pprior macrumors 65816

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    And around and around we go....

    Seriously, why is it the glassy guys feel the need to convince the world that it's better?

    You want glassy, fine!

    Personally I don't want to be looking at myself, and that's exactly what you do with a glassy screen. Yes you can train your eye not to focus on your own image and the room around you, but it's STILL THERE. It gives me a headache.

    My kids 3 year old imac continues to serve - I would have bought a new one Apple, but I don't want glassy screens. Your loss.
     
  13. TheBritishBloke macrumors 68030

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    Or theres the fact that glossy screens aren't really made by any manufacturer other than Apple? Is that also why apple has dropped the matte 30" ACD for a glossy 27"?

    If reflections annoy you, turn the brightness up a bit, then you can't see yourself..

    Matte lightens colours. Its like looking through a fogged window, whereas a glossy screen is looking through a clean window.
     
  14. OatmealRocks macrumors 6502a

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    AHAHHAHAHAHA .. I love Apple products but you sure are delusional.
     
  15. TheBritishBloke macrumors 68030

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    At least support your statement with some evidence? What makes me delusional? Why do you think Matte is better?
     
  16. TMRaven macrumors 68020

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    Personally for prints, I prefer high quality matte paper. Without having to worry about reflections, the colors are very deep and rich on mattes-- especially blacks. That's only true if you're using a real heavy matte paper that can be bombarded with a bunch of ink.

    I tend to think a bit differently for displays though. LCDs are backlit, so the colors will never be as deep and rich, because there will always be some kind of element of backlight bleeding that washes the deeper colors out. Whenever apple adopts oled on large screens, I would love to see them made as matte.
     
  17. Kronie macrumors 6502a

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    We could turn that around and ask you the same question.

    My take for what its worth:

    I own both a glossy and a matte IPS screen. One is an Apple (glossy) and one is a dell (matte). One is LED and one is LCD. Both are calibrated and brightness at equal levels. Compare them side my side and they both look exactly the same and they both print accurately.......except one has minor reflections.

    I personally prefer the glossy.
     
  18. dagomike macrumors 65816

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    I'm not a fan of glossy, but with compatible lighting, the displays do look pretty nice. I live with it.
     
  19. SamTheeGeek macrumors 6502

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    Totally agree :D
    Glossy FTW !!!
     
  20. CBAviator macrumors 6502

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    Look guys. The reality that is you can calibrate either a matte or glossy screen for your photo editing needs and other needs. It really comes down to personal preference and just overall screen quality (without regard to the matte or glossy finish). Yes, matte can have a dull look to it at first, but glossy can also have an overly saturated look to it as well. Calibrate it properly and either will work just fine. I've been able to calibrate my screen to match near perfect with my photos printed professionally.

    But this is, of course, a world of preferences, and I prefer the glossy.
     
  21. Hellhammer Moderator

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    The panel itself is very glossy so removing the glass wouldn't help that much.
     
  22. CBAviator macrumors 6502

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    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I have heard that the screens themselves are also somewhat glossy, so, throwing a matte "glass" over top the screen may not exactly solve the issue. This wouldn't be any different than sticking a matte laminate over the glass of the current glossy screens.

    In addition, my personal belief as to why Apple may not offer this option is because of the aesthetics. First off, the iMacs look quite classy and "expensive" when the screen is on or off. With a matte screen, I'm not sure they'd have the same look. In addition, consider the MacBook Pros with the matte screen -- the screens aren't "flush" with the edges of the notebook, are they? Isn't there a lip between the matte screen and the notebook edge/border surrounding the screen? I'd imagine this might look kind of odd on the iMac given the completely flush and flat design currently in production. Again, just my opinion, no facts to back this up...
     
  23. bolen macrumors 6502

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    Well said, thanks.
     
  24. aliensporebomb macrumors 68000

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    Oh man!

    You guys are totally missing the boat on the glossy screens thing.

    They're PERFECT for figuring out when your boss is sneaking up behind you to see what webpage you're looking at.

    You NEED glossy!
     
  25. Btom macrumors 6502a

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    OK, check this out from EIZO. IMHO a well balanced white paper on the glossy/matte advantages from one of the main players in the field.
    We are not talking either/or here, I am simply suggesting that having a choice would be nice. After all iMac is not an entry level computer.

    Tom B.
     

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