New rMBP received : Some questions from a windows guys

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by cooa99, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. cooa99 macrumors regular

    Sep 30, 2011

    I have just received my rMBP 2.6Ghz, 16GB Ram, 768GB drive

    I have Some Questions

    1) How do I create a copy of Mountain Lion from the laptop?
    2) Is it possible to backup the recovery partition?
    3) which is better carbon copy cleaner OR Super Duper?
    4) Any recommendations for a File explorer sofware similar to Window explorer.?
    5) I have a 2011 Mac mini as well. What are the best softwares to remote desktop into it from the rMBP.
    6) Do I need any firewall/antivirus software?


  2. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    Create a Bootable Mountain Lion USB Key Installer
    Yes, Carbon Copy Cloner will backup the recovery partition.
    I prefer CCC, but either will work fine.
    Finder works fine for me, but has some limitations. There are alternatives such as TotalFinder.

    If you're on the same network, Screen Sharing works great. If you're remote, I use TeamViewer, which is free for personal use and works with Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, Ubuntu, iPhone, iPad, etc. It's very secure and quite simple to set up and use (no messing around with ports), which comes in handy if providing remote support to those who aren't very computer literate. You can talk them through the setup on their end and be connected to them in less than a minute. I prefer it over LogMeIn because it includes free file transfers between computers, a feature I use frequently.

    Macs are not immune to malware, but no true viruses exist in the wild that can run on Mac OS X, and there never have been any since it was released over 10 years ago. The only malware in the wild that can affect Mac OS X is a handful of trojans, which can be easily avoided by practicing safe computing (see below). Also, Mac OS X 10.6 and later versions have anti-malware protection built in, further reducing the need for 3rd party antivirus apps.
    1. Make sure your built-in Mac firewall is enabled in System Preferences > Security > Firewall

    2. Uncheck "Open "safe" files after downloading" in Safari > Preferences > General

    3. Disable Java in your browser (Safari, Chrome, Firefox). This will protect you from malware that exploits Java in your browser, including the recent Flashback trojan. Leave Java disabled until you visit a trusted site that requires it, then re-enable only for the duration of your visit to that site. (This is not to be confused with JavaScript, which you should leave enabled.)

    4. Change your DNS servers to OpenDNS servers by reading this.

    5. Be careful to only install software from trusted, reputable sites. Never install pirated software. If you're not sure about an app, ask in this forum before installing.

    6. Never let someone else have access to install anything on your Mac.

    7. Don't open files that you receive from unknown or untrusted sources.

    8. For added security, make sure all network, email, financial and other important passwords are long and complex, including upper and lower case letters, numbers and special characters.

    9. Always keep your Mac and application software updated. Use Software Update for your Mac software. For other software, it's safer to get updates from the developer's site or from the menu item "Check for updates", rather than installing from any notification window that pops up while you're surfing the web.
    That's all you need to do to keep your Mac completely free of any Mac OS X malware that has ever been released into the wild. While you may elect to use it, 3rd party antivirus software is not required to keep your Mac malware-free.
  3. charlieegan3 macrumors 68020


    Feb 16, 2012
    2. backup the recovery partition? use ccc, but Time Machine is what i like.
    3. ccc IMO
    4. There are others such as forklift, but you will grow to love the Finder
    5. Teamviewer
    6. nope, just a brain should keep you and your mac safe.

    All imo of course.

    Enjoy your new computer.
  4. stuaz macrumors 6502

    Jun 16, 2012
    4) The standard built in "file explorer" is called Finder.
    5) If they are on the same network then through finder it should show up on the left hand side as its name. Click on it and then in the window on the right hand side it will say "Share screen".
    6) No.

    Slightly odd questions based on you already owning a Mac Mini?
  5. robgendreau macrumors 68040

    Jul 13, 2008
    As you've undoubtedly discovered, the Mac Finder is rather lame. If you are used to some of the features in Windows 7, for example, you're not gonna like it. But generally there are ways around its limitations.

    TotalFinder is one. Applications like Leap are completely different; you may love it or hate it.

    If you got used to tagging in Windows windows, check out Tags or Punakea; although implemented in a sort of sideways manner, you can tag within the Finder with these applications.

    You can also make the Dock much more serviceable by using Dockview; it puts up displays of the open windows of an application when you hover over the Dock icon. One of those features that SHOULD have been in the Mac OS.

    Default Folder X isn't exactly like anything in Windows, but it does add a lot more functionality to the Save and Open dialog boxes, and supports tagging as well.

    For remoting into the mini I like Share Tool. It's an implementation of SSH, and allows encrypted connections for screen sharing, file sharing, iTunes sharing, iPhoto sharing, etc etc. Easy to use and good support; unlike Team Viewer and LogMeIn it's software you buy and install rather than a service. All work well.

    If you are using the laptop near the mini, take a look at ScreenRecycler, which allows you to use the other computer's monitor as a second monitor (thus if the mini has it's own monitor the running rMBP becomes a second monitor, or vice versa) and Teleport, which allows sharing of a keyboard and mouse/trackpad via software.

    And the included firewall in system preferences works just fine; if you need more sophisticated control look at NoobProof.
  6. Queen6, Aug 17, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2012

    Queen6 macrumors 603


    Dec 11, 2008
    Putting out the fire with gasoline...
    Same question, same rhetoric;

    There are several reasons to run antivirus/malware on OS X especially if you are dealing with a mixed environment passing on malicious code even inadvertently does you no favours in the profesional world, let alone family and friends. What does not hurt your Mac & OS X may bring a PC to it`s knees.

    You do need to be careful on the choice of application; ClamXav is extremely light and only looks in realtime at what you specify and it`s free. The sentry is presently utilising 0.2% of CPU consuming just over an hours worth of CPU time over several weeks and this is on a machine over four years old. Does anyone seriously still believe that running ClamXav on todays modern hardware impacts performance! The paid for packages I agree are a waste of $ offering little more than a placebo with a heavyweight user interface. ClamAV the parent of ClamXav protects numerous servers globally, which is a pretty good tip...

    ClamXav will have no impact on a modern Intel based Mac. To have a free, low headroom, accurate scanner that offers a lot of flexibility and not utilize it seems somewhat stubborn at best. The retorts of AV being a resource hog, boils down to one thing, research; ClamXav will not bog your system down, if it does you have some other inconsistencies that need addressing, or your hardware is so old it`s well and truly time to upgrade, on my Early 2008 MBP ClamXav is simply invisible, there is absolutely no degradation of performance, as for the i7 2.4 MBP & now the Retina MBP it`s completely transparant.

    I have literally decades of work on my systems, I have no intention of losing any data, ClamXav is but one tool in a multilayered safety net. Lets face it, if and when OS X is compromised it will spread like wildfire as many fundamentally believe that OS X is invulnerable. I am not entirely sure posts that overly renforce this false sense of security are helpful to the average user, even Apple recognise threats to the operating system and sub components, however the updates are too slow to be considered a preventative measure...

    I have never had a positive hit in all the years I have run ClamXav equally OS X is gaining traction and it`s simply a matter of time before someone figures it out, thinking otherwise is simply naive at best. ClamXav cost me nothing monetarily nor time in productivity, this is a safety net that costs little more than five minutes of your time, one of life's better investments.

    Virus/malware gains traction by exploiting vulnerabilities on unprotected systems. I don't believe for one second that CalmXav is the single security solution for OS X, it is however the de-facto standard for many mail servers globally (ClamAV), and the app is rapidly updated.

    Apple has included ClamAV with OS X server since 10.4 and continues to do so today ( with OS X 10.7.3 Lion Server. ClamXav is transparent on an Intel based Mac, adds another level of protection at zero cost.

    Apple also clearly list Calmav-137-1 on their 10.7.3 Open Source page ( admittedly it is not implemented in the Lion client release, equally I would not be surprised if it was quietly implemented in a forthcoming release of OS X as was XProtect implemented in Snow Leopard. Apple may simply choose to integrate ClamAV into Xprotect and the vast majority will never know the difference. As of OS X 10.6 your Mac is running anti malware like it or not ;)

    There are many compelling reasons to run ClamXav and few if any not too, personal choices aside I fundamentally believe that suggesting that OS X is safe to all and does not need such tools is very much a step in the wrong direction; not all are technically minded, neither do all users who may have access to machines follow the rules and guidelines of safe computing. The vast majority simply point and click to get to where or what they want ClamXav simply serves as a barrier to protect those that are unaware and some cases unconcerned, ultimately such safeguards protect the community as a whole.

    Be mindful that some of those advising that there is no need for Mac`s to run any form of AV, have already have a high level of computing proficiency and a deep understanding of the system, your kid`s, your grandparent`s, the guy from next door etc likely wont have this acquired knowledge. The premis is to keep the the community as a whole safe, or of course we can all simply ignore the threat and hope that by doing little to nothing, and disabling functionality will do the trick.

    Install, dont install it`s down to you now...............

    n.b. Those that want to run the ClamXav sentry need to download directly from the ClamXav site, as the apps store version does not have this functionality.
  7. cooa99 thread starter macrumors regular

    Sep 30, 2011
    Thank you very much guys!.

    Since Carbon Copy is no longer free, do I need to buy separate license for the rMBP and MacMini or the same code will work on both?

  8. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    One will work for both:

    CCC License, Registration, Trial, Banners, etc.
  9. stevelam macrumors 65816

    Nov 4, 2010
    is teamviewer actually retina optimized? i'd be very surprised if it was.
  10. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    AFAIK, no, it's not.
  11. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    You don't need to buy CCC unless you plan to use it regularly. If you use it once, the trial should suffice.

    That said I'm not surprised they are now charging for such terrific software.
  12. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere


    May 16, 2008
    With the most current version, CCC is no longer donationware. It's a 30 day trial, after which you must buy it. You can use earlier free versions.
  13. astrorider macrumors 6502

    Sep 25, 2008
    How about using Back to My Mac? It's already built-in. You just have to have an iCloud account, which you may already have for syncing your other data, and turn Back to My Mac On on both machines. It's in System Preferences under iCloud. With it you'll be able to screen share and access the other Mac's drives, regardless of whether you're inside/outside your network. Search the Help for more info.

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