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Hey clevin, which browsers (names and version numbers) are these screenshots from?
 
Why do i have to repeat it again? if you don't know firefox, Im not interested discussing with you anymore.
Nice add.

And I see your point. You don't want to use real valid arguments, but think that by pointing to unrelated download numbers your opinion must be an objective one, and an argued one, no less.
Sorry to tell you this, but I do know Firefox. I use it as well as I use other browsers. It's just far from being my favourite.

I told you several times you don't know where that screenshot came from, why don't you first find out where it came from and what does that imply?

Well, it implies what I have stated in the post just above: That you think that by showing that screen shot, you can - by extension - prove that any other browser than FF sucks. Yet you forget that that screen shot in itself doesn't say anything about Firefox, it only say something about Safari as an island – as my recent screen shots show.


I listed all I need to say, I have no problem handing all my records for other people to read and judge for themselves.
Yes, you listed all you could say – however, without valid arguments, you'd need to say a whole lot more than "many people use the same browser as me, thus they must agree with my opinion and my reasons for using that browser". That's just yet another claim, not an argument – nothing more than an unfounded claim.
 
It appears that since 10.5.2, Safari is not using the Cache located in ~/Library/Caches/

Instead, it is using a new instance located in /private/var/folders, while the old one just sits there.
Can you say "serious security flaw"? To wit, having the cache located in /private/var/folders means that if FileVault is enabled on your account you're leaking unencrypted cache entries. Using ~/Library/Caches keeps your browsing info encrypted and private like it's supposed to. Where can I report this bug?
 
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I though you actually find something from my screenshot, apparently you are so involved in argument, you don't even want to spend 5 minutes to do a simple search here at MR. not to mention some REsearch.

I said you didn't get any real information from my screenshot, and you still don't.

Im glad your browsers never use more than 19% CPU, congratulation.

My record is for people to judge, and you are 0.001% of them. :) I take yours. Thanks for your personal feedback.

I don't see any recent posts from you offer any nutrition, Im afraid I won't have much more substance to say neither. So attack whatever you want, I would stop wasting the Forum Resources from here. :)
 
When will Safari ever support ASP?

I use Safari as my primary browser, but am stunned by the fact that after many, many years, Safari STILL does not support the many websites running Active Server Pages (ASP). Go to www.bmwusa.com and try to build your own BMW. Go to www.bedbathandbeyond and try to enlarge a photo of a product. Try to view even the home page of www.abctarget.com. But all these pages work on the Mac when using Firefox! What gives?

Hello, it's the 21st century, Steve. As much as we all hate Mircrosoft, we would like to be able to surf the web and not stare at blank pages.
 
Well, incase people don't know, the Acid3 test is out. Webkit is in the high 80s, and Minefield (the FF nightly) is in the high 60s.
 
I though you actually find something from my screenshot, apparently you are so involved in argument, you don't even want to spend 5 minutes to do a simple search here at MR. not to mention some REsearch.

I said you didn't get any real information from my screenshot, and you still don't.

Im glad your browsers never use more than 19% CPU, congratulation.

My record is for people to judge, and you are 0.001% of them. :) I take yours. Thanks for your personal feedback.

I don't see any recent posts from you offer any nutrition, Im afraid I won't have much more substance to say neither. So attack whatever you want, I would stop wasting the Forum Resources from here. :)

How swell of you. It's a shame, that you do not understand even simple things: The nutrition-comment was related to using McDonalds-argumentation – the one and only argument you use: "Firefox is used by hundred of millions of users, so it must be the best out there for people browsing" = "McDonalds sells hundred of millions of burgers, so it must be the best food out there (i.e. nutritious)".

You have a tendency to utterly ignore valid arguments – any arguments in fact - and think that because I do not think that javascript benchmarks is the end-all of webbrowsing I am not doing my research, which is nonsense. How about those screenshots where you "proved" how much CPU Safari (and apparently by extension every other browser than FF) uses? Yet, you fail to do the same for FF. And when I showed you some pictures on omniweb and FF side-by-side, FF is the one taxing your computer. By several times.

Oh, but that doesn't count. And because you have been outed, and run out of arguments, you choose to "quote" me for saying "blah, blah, blah". Sorry, but just because you're incapable of understand simple things, doesn't mean you can dismiss them.
Further, speaking of features: How's them workspaces in FF working out for you? That's right. All you have are some horisontal tabs and bookmark folders. Woopy .
 
Well, incase people don't know, the Acid3 test is out. Webkit is in the high 80s, and Minefield (the FF nightly) is in the high 60s.

I didn't know, so this is great. Can't wait for Omnigroup to incorporate the newest webkit in OW. :)

I went to their page –*anyone else not knowing exactly what the Acid3 test is and how it applies to browsing, go the link, and then scroll down to Sander's reply – unless you're geeky enough not to need it explained in ordinary english. :p

http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/acid3-putting-browser-makers-on-notice-again/
 
I use Safari as my primary browser, but am stunned by the fact that after many, many years, Safari STILL does not support the many websites running Active Server Pages (ASP). Go to www.bmwusa.com and try to build your own BMW. Go to www.bedbathandbeyond and try to enlarge a photo of a product. Try to view even the home page of www.abctarget.com. But all these pages work on the Mac when using Firefox! What gives?

Hello, it's the 21st century, Steve. As much as we all hate Mircrosoft, we would like to be able to surf the web and not stare at blank pages.
I went to all three of those sites in Safari. I didn't see any issues! Was there something specific that you were encountering?
 
I went to all three of those sites in Safari. I didn't see any issues! Was there something specific that you were encountering?
Yea, same here, everything is working fine (I'm using the latest seed.)

Now, Black or Silver BMW... :p
 
help me! safari shutdowns on mouse click

I am a Safari fan and take some heat for it sometimes. I was under the impression that it was very secure but now these anti-fishing things that are being reported are a little troubling. You going to take care of that stuff too Apple??? :rolleyes:

Hi. Iám dissapointed that safari is so unstable, especially since ive just formatted my mac and all,pressing search result links in google results in sudden shut downs. consequently on the same links.. ie this one: http://amule.en.softonic.com/mac

Do i have a virus or something?
Please help..
 
Hi. Iám dissapointed that safari is so unstable, especially since ive just formatted my mac and all,pressing search result links in google results in sudden shut downs. consequently on the same links.. ie this one: http://amule.en.softonic.com/mac

Do i have a virus or something?
Please help..

I've got three Macs - all running the updated version of Safari just fine. Do you have any third party add-ons or OS hacks installed? They often are the cause of problems. I don't use them. i don't have problems.

Try clearing your web cache. I've had a problem once where an malformed or incompletely downloaded file in the cache caused one site to crash until I zapped the cache.

If other instability issues crop up, you may have some bad memory installed.
 
I use Safari as my primary browser, but am stunned by the fact that after many, many years, Safari STILL does not support the many websites running Active Server Pages (ASP). Go to www.bmwusa.com and try to build your own BMW. Go to www.bedbathandbeyond and try to enlarge a photo of a product. Try to view even the home page of www.abctarget.com. But all these pages work on the Mac when using Firefox! What gives?

Hello, it's the 21st century, Steve. As much as we all hate Mircrosoft, we would like to be able to surf the web and not stare at blank pages.

All work fine for me.

I think you don't understand what ASP is. The server runs ASP to create the HTML that gets piped to your computer and it makes no difference what browser or OS is being used on the client end. Assuming the ASP is written to produce correct HTML (and some Flash elements - the BMW site is a rare example of a legitimate use of Flash).
 
no skills..

I've got three Macs - all running the updated version of Safari just fine. Do you have any third party add-ons or OS hacks installed? They often are the cause of problems. I don't use them. i don't have problems.

Try clearing your web cache. I've had a problem once where an malformed or incompletely downloaded file in the cache caused one site to crash until I zapped the cache.

If other instability issues crop up, you may have some bad memory installed.

Thanks a lot for the help. I´ll try find and fix the things you mentioned, but if you have the time; i´d truly appreciate if you told me where to find those third party add-ons and OS hacks (do u mean hacked software?) i suppose i´ll manage clearing my web cache.. :rolleyes:
 
Safari keeps doing this to me. Becoming real annoying, especially when running on battery power. I don't recall this ever being an issue before I upgraded to v3.1
 

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For Tosser especially, Safari Stand allows OmniWeb-like tab features, also Pith Helmet allows site-specific ad blocking:

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Personally, I find that Safari's integration with the OS, without plug-ins needed is just awesome. I recognise that it does have a few problems, but fortunately they do not affect me, and the start up speed is astonishing.
 
For Tosser especially, Safari Stand allows OmniWeb-like tab features, also Pith Helmet allows site-specific ad blocking:

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Since when are those tabs you just took a picture of "omniweb-like"?
And I do know about pithhelmet. That's the only thing I hate about Safari-updates: Having to wait for him to write a compatible adblocker.

Edit: Sorry, I see the omniweb-look-alike now. The top tabs along with the drawer tabs seems like quite the redundancy. Looks like crap, I prefer the original instead. Especially in corporation with workspaces etc.
 
What BS is this?

Are you guys serious about Safari as a browser? Apart from the forcefully strong anti-aliasing (which is sometimes pleasing for a change) it has nothing, repeat: nothing, going for it.

First, at least on Win XP Pro, it simply does not work, at least not in its latest "release" version of 3.1 --
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1447340&tstart=0

Two, even when it used to (with 3.0.4), some of the basic functionality one has come to expect from browsers after using Firefox, or Opera, or Maxthon (for IE), are missing from Safari.

Three, that fancy colorful chart about speed on the main Safari website is prime time baloney. Opera is hands down the fastest. FF 3 will be pretty good -- FF 2.0.0.13 is a bit slow because of bloated memory management. And frankly, on many websites, IE with Maxthon is simply unbeatable in terms of speed, even if the site looks a little uglier because IE7 doesn't do CSS well.

Anyway, Safari will basically find a place on my machine for some testing, but only after it bloody installs!
 
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