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Almost every smartphone OS now comes with on board navigation and is a glaring missing feature from iOS, IMO. It is convienient for the user to have a navigation app pre loaded ( rather than having to find one ), and adds value to the phone.

I'm sure Apple will bring a navigation app at some point, and supported with SIRI.
 
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Can't argue with that - android is definitely ahead on this one. Even though I have copilot for my iPhone, it lacks the OS level integration that you get from android's built in turn by turn navigation and it's something I'd like to see addressed in future iOS releases.
Of course, this isn't really a Samsung feature, but an android one...

But it comes on the Samsung units & still is not available on the iPhone units.
 
Quite frankly, for the amount of times I use Motion X or Map-quest, I don't even put this on the list of things I'm waiting for Apple to improve upon. I use the built in google map almost daily, but I'll use it to learn the directions, then do what you're suppose to do while you drive - and that is pay attention to driving.

Samdung, like any of the other android powered phones out there, just have so little to sell their products on - there is a clear lack of product differentiation, even between competing handsets. If a non-Apple manufacturers want to steal away business from another non-Apple manufacturer, they're going to need to actually do something creative with the hardware itself. If they want to eat into Apple's customer base, they're going to need to be creative on the hardware, on the software and the whole eco-system (internal and external). Frankly, I don't see it happening. All non-Apple manufacturers will simply cater to the Apple hating crowd, regardless of whether their hardware is better or not. Apple haters will be haters regardless of what Apple does.

How come? Android phones have everything iPhone does and then some. Navigation is just one example. Then there are SD cards, OLED screens, replaceable batteries, file system, NFC, LTE etc. The only thing they don't have is the glass back but, trust me, no one misses that. and, BTW, did you know that Samsung sells more smart phones that Apple?
 
I was drive a few days ago, had maps open, music playing through the aux input in my car stereo. I became scared as Siri started to give me turn by turn directions. May be a bug, but my phone does give turn by turn.
 
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Apart from the fact that it isn't available outside the USA, does it have the deep OS level integration you get with androids built in app?

How does the Android app have "deep OS level integration?"
 
How come? Android phones have everything iPhone does and then some. Navigation is just one example. Then there are SD cards, OLED screens, replaceable batteries, file system, NFC, LTE etc. The only thing they don't have is the glass back but, trust me, no one misses that. and, BTW, did you know that Samsung sells more smart phones that Apple?

I didn't know all android phones had all those features; Android IS pretty awesome!
 
It's coming to Apple, or Apple have wasted a sizeable amount of money.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395555,00.asp
Will it come? Yes more than likely question is when? People have been saying next os for years now. Apple map app sucks and is way way behind. Apple has failed to update it time and time again.

I guess this is a problem if you don't understand general directions, orientation, or how to read a map. iOS maps has never failed me and Siri only makes it easier now. Samsung needs to stop trying to compare spec for spec, and take a look at the whole picture.
You know that reading a map and turn by turn are two different things. I can read a map just fine and before I start a trip I look over the map and directions but at the same time I can keep my eyes on the road and do not have to focus on reading multiple street signs and the directions. I use the voice part to "ding" me when I am close to the next turn and pay more attention there. Plus it is very helpful when I miss a turn.
It is one of those very nice features that the iPhone sorely is lacking.
 
It's nice to hear someone say that. I've been using Waze in conjunction with Navigon for a long time now and it's the perfect combination.

Waze's features for reporting and spotting police and other such activity is just amazing, but Navigon's reliability is second to none. Either way, Waze get's little chatter.

Good to know about Navigon. I will give it a try as well. And yes Waze should be huge but you're right, little chatter.
 
There's an app for that

There are actually many apps for that. I use the mapquest app. I like it because it lets me enter the address in free form or select it from one of my contacts. It tells me step by step directions and works really great, specially the last version.
 
No, you can't buy that. Will your app be integrated with contacts? Will it be integrated with Google Street View (which shows you the picture of the intersection at the next turn on your route)?

All my nav apps on iOS pull in my contacts.

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Almost every smartphone OS now comes with on board navigation and is a glaring missing feature from iOS, IMO. It is convienient for the user to have a navigation app pre loaded ( rather than having to find one ), and adds value to the phone.

I'm sure Apple will bring a navigation app at some point, and supported with SIRI.

It may bring value, but every nav app is different, and its nice to find the one that works best for me anyways.
 
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Laird Knox said:
Phil A. said:
Apart from the fact that it isn't available outside the USA, does it have the deep OS level integration you get with androids built in app?

How does the Android app have "deep OS level integration?"

Integration with contacts and calendars (navigate to meeting location) are two things that spring to mind.
If I'm walking to a meeting in London it is useful to have walking directions through the earphones and when I had an android phone it was incredibly useful and far better than copilot for that use.
It doesn't make android better than iOS overall for me, but that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge when android does something better than iOS and this is an example of that
 
Then there are SD cards, OLED screens, replaceable batteries, file system, NFC, LTE etc.

I've highlighted the ones real users might care about right now. The rest are exciting for engineers and bothersome for everyone else.


Even then, LTE rollout is a work in progress, and LTE chipsets are buggy (especially in how they transition back and forth when entering/leaving LTE coverage). By the time iPhone 5 is ready to launch, both of those issues will be closer to resolution.


(A note on NFC: I like it. It has real potential. But it's got a bit of a chicken and egg problem right now, and a great many people with NFC on their phone wouldn't encounter a place where they could take advantage of it.
 
That feature is there so you can find the nearest Apple store with ease and get a real phone, not a knock-off.
 
Almost every smartphone OS now comes with on board navigation and is a glaring missing feature from iOS, IMO. It is convienient for the user to have a navigation app pre loaded ( rather than having to find one ), and adds value to the phone.

I'm sure Apple will bring a navigation app at some point, and supported with SIRI.

True but something Apple needs to do is make some fundimental changes to its "system apps"
For example the map app does not belong as something that only gets updated at OS updates. It should be something they throw in the App store and can update it that way.
This is a huge reason why on Android not having the "latest" OS is not as big of a deal as it is to iOS. Most Android System apps can and are updated seperatly from the OS and the Android Marketplace handles the updates.

For example Google Maps and Nav need and get an update Google puts it the update in the Marketplace and its gets pushed to all the devices. No need to wait for the manufacture to get it done and no need to wait for a entire OS update for bug fixes.
This is something Apple should do as very few of its stock Apps even belong as something that could not be pushed to the App store to handle all updates for those apps.
 
No, you can't buy that. Will your app be integrated with contacts? Will it be integrated with Google Street View (which shows you the picture of the intersection at the next turn on your route)?

Certainly integrated with contacts. It won't have street view. It will have some features Google's does not though. There was an article run a while back about how the premium turn-by-turn GPS apps were slow to go to Android because Google provides something "good enough" out of the box -- hence less opportunity to make money.

Apple will soon provide something "out of the box" too if acquisitions are any indication (and will likely leap-frog Google like they usually do). This is one of those places you have to wait for Apple to do it "just the way they want" and use third-party apps in the mean time. Kinda sucks for iOS users if you want basic GPS turn-by-turn for free. Keep in mind that Google's requires an internet connection, whereas most iOS apps have a full maps download and don't use your data plan and work when you are camping on obscure mountain roads where the carriers lack coverage.
 
Funny

At least this commercial is funnier than the original ones they aired. Lack of TbT Nav is a minus for me. Then again, the rest of the phone is a + and I'm sure they'll cave to the desire for nav in the future. Still, "we just got samsunged" is pretty funny. Wonder if they say we got got iOwned when they lose a lawsuit.

*but why was the dude navigating to an Apple store?
 
No, you can't buy that. Will your app be integrated with contacts? Will it be integrated with Google Street View (which shows you the picture of the intersection at the next turn on your route)?
Why would I want my contacts integrated with my GPS app? So my contacts can stalk me? So google can stalk me better?

Sorry, but I find the whole concept of Latitude to be super creepy.
 
Integration with contacts and calendars (navigate to meeting location) are two things that spring to mind.
Yeah that makes sense. I've never had an issue with the maps but it would definitely be more convenient. I've rarely used the phone for GPS so that's why I am unfamiliar with the options. Not terribly difficult to implement so I don't know why they haven't.

My biggest pet peeve with the maps is that you can't use maps.google.com in Safari without it opening up the mapping app. Typically I'm looking for more than just a route as that is what I have my Garmin for.

If I'm walking to a meeting in London it is useful to have walking directions through the earphones and when I had an android phone it was incredibly useful and far better than copilot for that use.
I wouldn't call using headphones "deep OS integration" though. ;)


It doesn't make android better than iOS overall for me, but that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge when android does something better than iOS and this is an example of that
And that is why I asked. I didn't know what you were implying as I've never used a phone in that way.
 
Why would I want my contacts integrated with my GPS app?
Is this a trick question? :confused:
Because you can store people's addresses with the contacts.

For example, I say "Navigate to [wifes name]" - The phone knows where she lives from her contact info and navigates me there.

This works with any contact that I have their home address stored. It has nothing to do with Latitude.
 
MY IOS Maps Opinion

Ok, here it goes...

I absolutely love my iPhone (it is in almost every way better than my old android) but as mentioned, the navigation is not even close.

I have tried Waze, Motionxgps and map quest and honestly hate all of these apps. Motionx has the best UI, but I believe that all 3 of these apps get directions from the same place and use the same service. Here's what I mean, I find that each of these apps extremely slow to reroute (I will will literally be driving 30seconds before the gps re-rerouts me. The gps does not seem accurate at all in any of these apps and often keeps me on my continued path even though I have diverged from it. Just overall terrible. And the UI on all 3 absolutely sucks

The maps app on the iPhone which uses Google maps is actually extremely accurate. It tracks my motion incredibly smooth and instantly updates where I am. This leads me to believe that the GPS hardware is just fine in the iPhone. Of course the maps app does not do turn by turn so I find it pretty much useless - but it is really good if I am say walking around NYC.

Naviagation is the one thing I miss about android and despite what people say, I believe it is a very important aspect of a smartphone. I hope apple updates with something soon - or if anyone has any other gps recommendations let know - but again (the 3 I have tried have terrible UI, give bad directions, take forever to reroute and are not smooth at all in updating my location status)
 
Austin TX?

I'm in Austin... that Apple store is not. I guess Samsung's navigation was a little lost after all. :D
 
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