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New Samsung Ad Targets iPhone's Lack of Built-in Turn-by-Turn Directions

Consultant said:
Samsung Samsunged its own ad:
http://obamapacman.com/2012/01/iphone-users-got-samsunged/
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You know that is standard practice across the board and Apple does it as well.

Leave it to an Apple Fanboy site to try to make something out of nothing. Sorry but Apple fanboy sites as "evidence" of something wrong is worth less that the crap that comes out of my rear and I flush that down the toilet.

Any time they put a screen image of something in an ad no matter what manufacture they tend to doctor the image and "photoshop it" so to speak so it looks better. That being video or a picture. They want to remove any glare, and make sure everything looks right and the location appears right for the ad. You know that they had to fake that set up in the ad with actors so it is in some studio. That studio could be 100's of miles from the location they are faking so the screen needs to be faked as well to look correct.
 
Oletros said:
Mmmmm, no, a lot of GPS apps are a lot better than Google Navigation, that is a basic navigation app.

Not talking about using Google Navigation outside of your own country. Tomtom, Navigon, etc doesn't need data to worl, Google Navigation needs it
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With Google Nav, you can pre-load maps of where you are going onto the phone so it doesn't rely on a data connection while navigating.
 
AlexJaye said:
With Google Nav, you can pre-load maps of where you are going onto the phone so it doesn't rely on a data connection while navigating.
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No, you can cache the route but if you have to reroute or you start a new route it need data connection because all the calculations are do on the server side
 
Oletros said:
No, you can cache the route but if you have to reroute or you start a new route it need data connection because all the calculations are do on the server side
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but calculations of the route is a lot less data than downloading the maps. But it is true the calculations are done completely server side.
 
As to the haters, I also cover Apple fails as well. Site also covers products such as Chrome without negative things to say.

Rodimus Prime said:
I have never seen it use street view for turns unless it is something that you can bring up yourself. I know for the destination it kicks over to street view witch I find very helpful.


Do you have a source for this
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Yes. I've posted about it on my site. But here's Google:
http://www.google.com/help/terms_maps.html

Article on my site:
http://obamapacman.com/2012/01/why-iphone-doesnt-have-real-time-navigation-with-google-maps/
 
Consultant said:
As to the haters, I also cover Apple fails as well. Site also covers products such as Chrome without negative things to say.



Yes. I've posted about it on my site. But here's Google:
http://www.google.com/help/terms_maps.html

Article on my site:
http://obamapacman.com/2012/01/why-iphone-doesnt-have-real-time-navigation-with-google-maps/
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So Google has a resections on using of their data. Does not stop others from using the data to generated directions just can not use navigation.

Now I can see them requiring someone to have to pay Google for the right for real time navigation.
Does not change the fact that Android phones have voice navigation for free compared to iPhone users which do not by default and Apple excuse for not having it expired with iOS 4 much less iOS 5.

But your FUD spreading is kind of bad. Already called out your site about the crap with the fake screen shot and well my opinion on facts sited from a fanboy site.
 
Consultant said:
Again, Google does not allow other companies to use Google Maps for navigation.

So much for Google "openness". It isn't rocket science to figure out who is limiting who.
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Fair enough, but that's still not a good excuse for Apple. This is not a recent problem. They've had years, years, and tens of billions in the bank to make something happen. I really hope come summer or whenever the next big iPhone/iOS related announcements take place they really nail this issue down.
 
Consultant said:
As to the haters, I also cover Apple fails as well. Site also covers products such as Chrome without negative things to say.



Yes. I've posted about it on my site. But here's Google:
http://www.google.com/help/terms_maps.html

Article on my site:
http://obamapacman.com/2012/01/why-iphone-doesnt-have-real-time-navigation-with-google-maps/
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Really, give up you silly bashing.

First, you're omitting this "2. Restrictions on Use. Unless you have received prior written authorization from Google (or, as applicable, from the provider of particular Content), you must not:"

And second, this Terms of Service has been like this way way before there was Google Navigation, even the same terms for GPS real time apps were in the iOS SDK when it was launched in 2.008 and has nothing to do with navigation, but with liability.
 
Right on Target

Well, it is definitely true that this is a lacking feature -- don't expect Google to give up their best stuff to the competition (so easily).
I have nothing but Macs at home, an iPad, and an older iPhone and two new iPhones; but my next phone will probably be a Samsung. I love Apple's design and functionality and how everything "just works". But honestly, I'm tired of Apple's refusal to budge on certain design aspects.
They're right about not listening to the customer when it comes to producing a product. But they're completely wrong about towing that line once its out there. Feedback is what helps make things better. The iPhone has been out for 5 years now and it is the same cr** 3.5" screen (different resolution, yes, but same size screen) -- go to an AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile/Sprint store and just hold a phone with a 4" or 4.3" or 4.5" screen. The difference is amazing -- more to the point they actually make much better use of the phone's space. There is less of a bezel top/bottom and on both sides.
Now when it comes to Navigation, sure, we have lots of options through the App Store, but why does every aspect of how we organize and gather information need to be regulated through Apple? And worse yet -- things should get BETTER now WORSE in this regard as the market matures -- Apple did this with iTunes; they got the Labels to let go of DRM. So why are things going in reverse on the iPhone/iPad ecosystems?
At some point people need to vote with their wallets to express their discontent. I doubt the next iPhone will be anything larger than a 3.7" or 4" screen and it will no doubt keep all icons/apps in the same restrictive space. But I think I'm going to skip on this and go with Android (as much as I despise Google) or perhaps even Mango (though it is a very nice interface the phones are pretty limited in choice) and try it out for a while and see if my growing frustration with iPhone designs can be relieved by this platform or if I'll come back crawling on my knees for a new iPhone shortly thereafter.
I hope Apple continues to make quality products; I just hope that they'll loosen up a bit and adopt some better features...
 
awesomebase said:
Well, it is definitely true that this is a lacking feature -- don't expect Google to give up their best stuff to the competition (so easily).
I have nothing but Macs at home, an iPad, and an older iPhone and two new iPhones; but my next phone will probably be a Samsung. I love Apple's design and functionality and how everything "just works". But honestly, I'm tired of Apple's refusal to budge on certain design aspects.
They're right about not listening to the customer when it comes to producing a product. But they're completely wrong about towing that line once its out there. Feedback is what helps make things better. The iPhone has been out for 5 years now and it is the same cr** 3.5" screen (different resolution, yes, but same size screen) -- go to an AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile/Sprint store and just hold a phone with a 4" or 4.3" or 4.5" screen. The difference is amazing -- more to the point they actually make much better use of the phone's space. There is less of a bezel top/bottom and on both sides.
Now when it comes to Navigation, sure, we have lots of options through the App Store, but why does every aspect of how we organize and gather information need to be regulated through Apple? And worse yet -- things should get BETTER now WORSE in this regard as the market matures -- Apple did this with iTunes; they got the Labels to let go of DRM. So why are things going in reverse on the iPhone/iPad ecosystems?
At some point people need to vote with their wallets to express their discontent. I doubt the next iPhone will be anything larger than a 3.7" or 4" screen and it will no doubt keep all icons/apps in the same restrictive space. But I think I'm going to skip on this and go with Android (as much as I despise Google) or perhaps even Mango (though it is a very nice interface the phones are pretty limited in choice) and try it out for a while and see if my growing frustration with iPhone designs can be relieved by this platform or if I'll come back crawling on my knees for a new iPhone shortly thereafter.
I hope Apple continues to make quality products; I just hope that they'll loosen up a bit and adopt some better features...
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That's why I bought a Samsung smartphone. I 'll go back to Apple whenever I think they have the best device for me.
 
Oletros said:
And second, this Terms of Service has been like this way way before there was Google Navigation, even the same terms for GPS real time apps were in the iOS SDK when it was launched in 2.008 and has nothing to do with navigation, but with liability.
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Not just liability, but licensing.

Google buys or leases map information from multiple vendors who also sell their info to GPS makers.

That's a major reason why they're not allowed to let anyone else reuse the data for navigation, which would compete with the provider's revenue sources.
 
Huh?

I use turn by turn with Navigon on my iPhone, which has excellent voice turn by turn. The problem with the Google App is you have to have an internet connection for it to work. Navigon requires no internet connection, so you can use it anywhere, and its VERY accurate even when I sit my phone down in the cup holder of my Prius.

Navigon is a Garman company.
 
robphoton said:
I use turn by turn with Navigon on my iPhone, which has excellent voice turn by turn. The problem with the Google App is you have to have an internet connection for it to work. Navigon requires no internet connection, so you can use it anywhere, and its VERY accurate even when I sit my phone down in the cup holder of my Prius.

Navigon is a Garman company.
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hmm 59.99 for the full NA Navigon. I suppose its reasonable, but hard to say without having tried it myself.
 
jmgregory1 said:
...You're clearly in a camp that will never give Apple credit (where it's due) and simply hold on to how it's been and "supposed to be" with computers and smartphones. Have fun living in 1995. When Samdung...
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I pretty much agreed with you, until I saw this. Seriously? Resorting to name calling? Though I don't think Samsung's ad is good, just call the company Samsung. Otherwise, you'd be just as bad as the trolls.
 
richardsonrs said:
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A405 Safari/7534.48.3)

Cause it's so hard to install the free mapquest app and use it instead of google built in app.
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And get to the wrong place all the time? No, zank you :)
 
sazivad said:
I pretty much agreed with you, until I saw this. Seriously? Resorting to name calling? Though I don't think Samsung's ad is good, just call the company Samsung. Otherwise, you'd be just as bad as the trolls.
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Considering the letters' location on the keyboard, I had assumed that one wasn't intentional.
 
paul4339 said:
Agree, this is my biggest complaint about the iPhone. Yes, i know Apple wants to re-think the problem and 'do it right', but it would be nice if they kept up (with this feature) in the meantime.

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No. It has nothing to do with doing it right. Google does it right with navigation, which is head and shoulders above even the paid apps on IPhone (I've used both dozens of times).

It has to do with taking a cut off app sales.
 
robjulo said:
No. It has nothing to do with doing it right. Google does it right with navigation, which is head and shoulders above even the paid apps on IPhone (I've used both dozens of times).

It has to do with taking a cut off app sales.
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It's not because Apple wants a cut of navigation app sales. Apple has already bought most, if not all, the components it needs to make a navigation app.
 
Am I missing something? Because my iPhone has turn by turn directions.....It doesn't talk but I can read the directions. I don't have an app installed.
 
forty2j said:
I've highlighted the ones real users might care about right now. The rest are exciting for engineers and bothersome for everyone else.
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I dunno man. I kinda like the idea of SD cards. Pop it in, take it out, move files from devices. And when you sell your phone or upgrade, you just take it out and put it in another... Yep. Useless SD cards. :rolleyes:
 
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