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New SE has 12 minutes on lifetime "call time"
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Nope, setup as new. So should it have zero or is a few minutes normal?
Also, if this is the timer for this phone, even restoring from backup shouldn't put time on the call clock should it?
I set my SE up as new yet it has 20 hours of call time. It must come from your iCloud account.
Weird that it would upload call time on a new phone. It's like going from an old car to a new car and ticking the miles on the new car.. Doesn't make sense
Incorrect. The lifetime call history is unique to every phone, and not an iCloud thing. It is normal for people to receive phones with existing call times because those phones may have gone through some additional random testing. If you reset your phone, purge it completely and do not sign into iCloud and you will still see that lifetime call time. The majority of phones should have 0 call time but some will not.
For example, you can immediately check to see if you are receiving a new or refurbished phone when getting a broken one replaced by Apple by checking the lifetime call history. That is the only surefire way of telling how old the phone is because that number can never be reset.
For example, you can immediately check to see if you are receiving a new or refurbished phone when getting a broken one replaced by Apple by checking the lifetime call history. That is the only surefire way of telling how old the phone is because that number can never be reset.
No, you're wrong. The lifetime will reset.
I restored my phone last week as new and my call time is 45min. I bought the phone in October. No way I've only been on the phone for 45min since then.
I wiped my phone at the end of December, and set it up as new. The "lifetime" call time on my phone is 15 hours... I did a rough calculation, and I used approximately 330 minutes (5.5 hours) since December 26. Even if I underestimated all the calls under a minute, there is no way they add up to extra 10 hours.
I think call time is calculated by using call history from Phone>Recents. I have call history going back to October 10. I am sure they add up to extra 10 hours. However, the "lifetime" call time should be WAY more than that. I got my phone in March of 2015. And since then, I've had at least ten hour-long phone conversations with my gf.
Since I don't want to clear my call history... can somebody volunteer to wipe call history to see if that affects call time in any way?
I think call time is calculated by using call history from Phone>Recents. I have call history going back to October 10. I am sure they add up to extra 10 hours. However, the "lifetime" call time should be WAY more than that. I got my phone in March of 2015. And since then, I've had at least ten hour-long phone conversations with my gf.
Since I don't want to clear my call history... can somebody volunteer to wipe call history to see if that affects call time in any way?
Clearing recent calls does not change the currently call period or the Lifetime counters.Since I don't want to clear my call history... can somebody volunteer to wipe call history to see if that affects call time in any way?
Also, Current Period is since you last "Reset Statistics" under Settings > Cellular ( scroll all the way down to get to Reset ). So it may match your Lifetime or be shorter depending on your usage of the Reset.
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My source on this is several Apple Geniuses so believe me or not. Wiping your phone will not affect lifetime call history.
Empirical evidence says otherwise.
Both my 5 and 6 plus were wiped after being swapped from a family member, and both counters were reset.
Wherever the figure is stored, it can be reset and is not a tamper-resistant counter like an odometer.
I just wiped and restored my 5S to complete the AT&T unlocking process and the call time for 'lifetime' and 'current period' both reset to 1 day, 0 hours
That means nothing without you also declaring what the call time was before you did the reset.
gotcha. This was the first time I had wiped the phone after 1.5 years of use so although I didn't look until I saw this thread, I'm sure it was much more than 1 day 0 hours.
For those with new iPhones... try this:
When setting up the your new iPhone, do not log in with your iCloud account initially. Just skip it during the set-up screen. Then, head to Settings>Cellular to check call time. Then reset your phone, and log in with your iCloud account during set-up screen. Again, go to Settings>Cellular to check call time.
If call time is 0 minutes without iCloud sign-in AND call time is anything but 0 with iCloud signed in, then it really is stored on iCloud, and downloaded onto devices.
If there is call time without iCloud sign-in, then, well, I don't know what to say... Maybe it's downloaded from carrier's server....?
When setting up the your new iPhone, do not log in with your iCloud account initially. Just skip it during the set-up screen. Then, head to Settings>Cellular to check call time. Then reset your phone, and log in with your iCloud account during set-up screen. Again, go to Settings>Cellular to check call time.
If call time is 0 minutes without iCloud sign-in AND call time is anything but 0 with iCloud signed in, then it really is stored on iCloud, and downloaded onto devices.
If there is call time without iCloud sign-in, then, well, I don't know what to say... Maybe it's downloaded from carrier's server....?
