Your comment pretty much encapsulates Apple's attitude towards the professional market since 2009 or so.
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New 'Server-Grade' iMac With Next-Gen Xeon Processor Coming End of 2017
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Your comment pretty much encapsulates Apple's attitude towards the professional market since 2009 or so.
I suspect Apple's own "surface studio" offering will come in the form of a giant iPad, but that's many years off.
Starting to make more and more sense.
My thought exactly, I have an old iMac 2010 model and it heats up real bad. Xeon Processors would mean a lot of heat produced.
Im fine if they still ship it with the crappy fusion drive - as long as its a standard connector for the drive and can be easily upgraded
This.
The iMac is a consumer product and the Mac lineup is a mess.
There are MacBook Pros that are clearly not suitable for most professionals. Now they want to turn the non-Pro iMac into a product for professionals?
There is no logic behind anything Apple did to the Mac over the last few years.
What's so great about the Surface Studio other than its touch (for those that want touch on a desktop). My understanding is the parts aren't really any better than what Apple is offering in the iMac. And it's expensive. So is it just that you can use it like a drafting table? That seems to be to be a niche of a niche market.
you can't possibly use a server as a server in a professional environment without being able to upgrade parts and repair those that malfunction (I've lost many GPU's on iMacs). Otherwise, the only backup is another iMac server.
Apple has to face some facts here...not only is the iMac not suitable for a professional server environment..... its design is looking extremely dated.
Apple has to face some facts here...not only is the iMac not suitable for a professional server environment..... its design is looking extremely dated.
How do you define "professional"? Seems to me there's a much broader definition of pro than just someone who wants the ability to swap out internals with their computer.
Uh, because I still have an iPhone and an iPad?
True, but by apples own account, they seem to be rethinking what people want in their desktops. Whether this extends to user upgradable storage is , I agree, a bit of a long shot - but I think its still a possibility
Hoping "server grade" also means it won't have an unwanted monitor attached. It's not that the monitors they attach are bad at the time they attach them (I'm not one of the "must be matte" brigade); it's just that the computer and the monitor obsolete or fail on different schedules, either one leaving you with a perfectly functional but useless other half. The machine I've wanted has been {current high-end imac without monitor} for ages, and I *want* to not have to go to hackintosh to get it.
With respect, though, that graph shows that Apple's biggest drawback is in the diversity of it's entire laptop range - not just the Pro; in terms of everything else, it all looks pretty competitive.
"Server" grade... what a laugh. Apple buried server grade gear long time ago and last time I checked, Servers are normally "headless" and have components you can replace.
Same here. The neglect of the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro has been a major failure on Apple's part. People say "oh, those don't sell a lot of product..." No kidding. That's because people who rely on horsepower and have already made major investments in peripherals are acutely aware of how outdated both are.
Its an iMac, and iMacs are AIO so yes you will have a monitor built into the computer
The New Mac Pro isn't going to ship or even be announced for a least a year, probably more. This Pro iMac, that isn't going to ship for 6 or more likely 9 months, has been leaked/hinted at by Apple. I think Apple is desperately pleading with professional users to just stick with the Mac for a little longer on the promises that Apple will finally get their act together with regard to professional users.
The worry for pros is if they show faith in Apple and stick with the Mac for another year or two, the new iMac and Mac Pro may not fit their need and the pros have just delayed an inevitable switch to Window or Linux by year or two.
This is one of my theories why Apple announced they would be announcing new pro iMac and Mac Pro so far in advance.
The worry for pros is if they show faith in Apple and stick with the Mac for another year or two, the new iMac and Mac Pro may not fit their need and the pros have just delayed an inevitable switch to Window or Linux by year or two.
This is one of my theories why Apple announced they would be announcing new pro iMac and Mac Pro so far in advance.
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Pretty sure the 'new' iMac won't have the same form factor as the current version. They've admitted they got it wrong once, they'd be pretty stupid to do it again. If they are getting a (what I would imagine would be the base-spec New Mac Pro version) Xeon processor - the 'Server Grade' bit - and a beefier desktop-class GPU, it's going to need space and extra cooling and that's not going to happen in the thin enclosure it currently has. I'm willing to wait and see what they have up their sleeves before jumping in and writing it off as a bad idea now.
They're basically in that same phone booth with the iMac. The 2014 iMacs kept throttling because of heat. Thanks to Skylakes cooler running, the 2015 models don't have that issue, but I do wonder about throwing an high end GPU and xeon processors if that puppy will run too hot.
You should just stop buying Apple now if you don't get it yet. User upgradability isn't coming unless it's a Mac Pro. Wake up.
I personally don't mind using a eGPU and having a super light pro machine.
Sounds like a catch-22, iMacs aren't upgradable either and these pro-grade models (if they make it to market) certainly won't be cheap nor upgradeable.