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EricNau said:
peer-to-peer sharing is free, yet it is the largest piracy problem in the world.

But only NOW are they selling videos. Before they we not so why would it be illegal to share em. Only itunes sell em
 
Konradx said:
But only NOW are they selling videos. Before they we not so why would it be illegal to share em. Only itunes sell em

I really have no idea what you are trying to say.

But I'll try and respond...
I assume you were referring to 'Music Videos' - in which case, it's still illegal. Just because it's not available on iTunes doesn't mean it's not copyrighted. (for the record - music videos have been sold way before iTunes)

For all that don't know the definition of piracy (in this context)...
"the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work : software piracy"
-- Oxford

This website is reproducing and distributing someone else's copyrighted work.
Come on people. You know it's illegal, stop trying to find a "loophole" - because there really isn't one in this case.

What good does stealing get the world - It cheats legitimate companies out of money they deserve.
 
EricNau said:
I really have no idea what you are trying to say.

But I'll try and respond...
I assume you were referring to 'Music Videos' - in which case, it's still illegal. Just because it's not available on iTunes doesn't mean it's not copyrighted. (for the record - music videos have been sold way before iTunes)

For all that don't know the definition of piracy (in this context)...
"the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work : software piracy"
-- Oxford

This website is reproducing and distributing someone else's copyrighted work.
Come on people. You know it's illegal, stop trying to find a "loophole" - because there really isn't one in this case.

What good does stealing get the world - It cheats legitimate companies out of money they deserve.


-Sorry, I have a different view on this issue, just to the case , nothing personal. :)

-As of my interpretation, the violation of Copyright law is to steal copyrighted materials for commerial purpose.

-Until you can prove the site generated profits by distributing copyrighted materials, otherwise , according to the Oxford's definition, it's only an act of piracy, yet not a crime.Since, benefit of doubt belongs to defendant.

-overlooking the whole piracy issue , I'd rather take it as a new chapter of
competition for whoever doing a business, than take it as a crime,

-government would be obligated to enforce the punishments to offenders if it's a crime, however who 'd bear this amount of money to enforce the anti-piracy campagin in this huge scale, all most everyone is a crimimal now.

-Besides, citing a decent statistic result, the amount of sales obtained is proportional to the copies of work being downloaded. In a scientific scope, it's a fact that you download to try , then buy it.

-One more thing, remember who is standing out putting a finger to your nose on TV, and claims their profit was being decimated ?

-They're all business men. Are there any teacher or scientist among them,
absolutely NO !

-Since the anti-piracy campaign is almost equal to an anit-learning campaign.

-Business people wants to lockup all books, CDs DVDs. and only the rich can buy.:)

-The more books to read, the more you'd learnt, does it mean that you need to buy every material you read ? Who'd bear this amount of money to waste?

- The best idea is to share.!:)
 
EricNau said:
peer-to-peer sharing is free, yet it is the largest piracy problem in the world.

but these are music videos, something many blogs and other sites have... and evean artist websites have to promote the cd
 
EricNau said:
peer-to-peer sharing is free, yet it is the largest piracy problem in the world.

True, but these are music videos, which record company's want people to see and watch for the artist's "image" and to spread the word.

whoops double post (didnt see page 2)
 
lolex said:
-Sorry, I have a different view on this issue, just to the case , nothing personal. :)

-As of my interpretation, the violation of Copyright law is to steal copyrighted materials for commerial purpose.

-Until you can prove the site generated profits by distributing copyrighted materials, otherwise , according to the Oxford's definition, it's only an act of piracy, yet not a crime.Since, benefit of doubt belongs to defendant.


-overlooking the whole piracy issue , I'd rather take it as a new chapter of
competition for whoever doing a business, than take it as a crime,

-government would be obligated to enforce the punishments to offenders if it's a crime, however who 'd bear this amount of money to enforce the anti-piracy campagin in this huge scale, all most everyone is a crimimal now.

-Besides, citing a decent statistic result, the amount of sales obtained is proportional to the copies of work being downloaded. In a scientific scope, it's a fact that you download to try , then buy it.

-One more thing, remember who is standing out putting a finger to your nose on TV, and claims their profit was being decimated ?

-They're all business men. Are there any teacher or scientist among them,
absolutely NO !

-Since the anti-piracy campaign is almost equal to an anit-learning campaign.

-Business people wants to lockup all books, CDs DVDs. and only the rich can buy.:)

-The more books to read, the more you'd learnt, does it mean that you need to buy every material you read ? Who'd bear this amount of money to waste?

- The best idea is to share.!:)

What about all of those people who put Star Wars Ep 3 on the internet the second day it was released to theaters? Seems they weren't making any profit for themselves (aka: being commercial) yet they still got sued for millions of dollars.

Does this make it right?

Does this mean I should walk into Borders Book Store and just steal books because I am learning? That would be illegal also.

Like you said, it's nothing personal I have against anybody, but it is against the law, don't make excuses for it please.
 
podex said:
but these are music videos, something many blogs and other sites have... and evean artist websites have to promote the cd
Is it possible that all of these sites are breaking the law too?
podex said:
True, but these are music videos, which record company's want people to see and watch for the artist's "image" and to spread the word.

whoops double post (didnt see page 2)

Just because a music video helps spread the world of an artist, doesn't mean that it is void to copyright laws. I could argue that movies are just to get the word out about an actor, therefore it is "OK" to copy and distribute a movie.

There might be a few, new artists who make free music videos to get the world out about themselves, but do you really think that videos by popular artists aren't copyrighted?

Besides, if what you said was true, we wouldn't have to pay $1.99 to download them from iTMS - they'd all be free.
 
EricNau said:
Is it possible that all of these sites are breaking the law too?


Just because a music video helps spread the world of an artist, doesn't mean that it is void to copyright laws. I could argue that movies are just to get the word out about an actor, therefore it is "OK" to copy and distribute a movie.

There might be a few, new artists who make free music videos to get the world out about themselves, but do you really think that videos by popular artists aren't copyrighted?

Besides, if what you said was true, we wouldn't have to pay $1.99 to download them from iTMS - they'd all be free.

You make a good point, But who said videos should be 2 dollars? iTunes did, how much profit are the artist or campanies making out of each music video iTunes sells? Also, Music videos are diffrent from regular Songs, The main reason music videos excist are for the "image" of the artist, Yahoo! , MSN and a lot of others show videos for free....Its not like mp3's you font see yahoo or MSN, playing mp3 songs online, just videos, because artist want videos to spread, especialy if its in ipod format, because you could be on a bus watching a video and someone would ask" what video is that" , "cool" and create a buzz.

But i dunno, those are just my 2 cents.
 
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