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ajo

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We have a new Sony TV on the way, it hasn't got a built in AppleTV app, but it does have AirPlay2.

How does AirPlay2 work for streaming, is it just sending an address to the TV and then the TV will play off of that. Will this be in 4K/Atmos etc, or does that depend on what you are sending from. Or does Airplay 2 not support this?

The TV should have a browser, is that a better option, is 4K/Atmos etc available through the browser?

Thanks

ajo
 

waw74

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4k and atmos will not be available in the browser. 4k might be, but you probably won't get HDR and will be a horrible experience. The interface is designed for being used up close with a keyboard/mouse, as opposed to sitting on the other side of the room with a remote.

airplay works in many different ways, it depends on the situation and how it was coded.
it can send a file location or web address
it can send the entire file
it can play on your phone, convert that output image in real time, and stream the conversion to the TV.


appleTV+ sends the file location, so you'll get 4k, HDR, and atmos.
I've just tried this out on my LG and did verify it works. (also works streaming to the aTV)


other services will be hit or miss, the Netflix app on the phone doesn't do it, (not even sure it supports HDR/atmos on the phone)
you'll have better results using the Netflix app on the TV. same for any other app that's offered on the TV.
 

MisterSavage

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New Sony TV owner here also. There's an Apple TV+ app you can download for the tv. I've been really happy with the smart tv component.

For airplay you can either select "screen mirroring" from control center or in an app such as YouTube on my iPad I touch the stream icon and select my tv's name.
 
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ajo

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New Sony TV owner here also. There's an Apple TV+ app you can download for the tv. I've been really happy with the smart tv component.

For airplay you can either select "screen mirroring" from control center or in an app such as YouTube on my iPad I touch the stream icon and select my tv's name.
I think the Apple TV+ app is only for the very latest bigger TVs
 

MisterSavage

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Well a few minutes later an the TV got an update with AppleTV+ app :D
Excellent! You were right though. Apple TV+ is only on a small number of 2020 Sony TV's. Airplay 2 is available on a bigger number Sony TV's that go back to 2018. That seems backwards to me.

 

perezr10

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If you don’t use iTunes purchased media very often you may be happy just using the app.

But the Apple TV 4K has the A10X chip which is still pretty awesome. The single threaded performance is on par with a 2017 I7 MacBook Pro and the 12-core GPU is way beyond what any TV is going to offer. For buttery smooth video scrubbing I couldn’t be happier. But 95% of my library is iTunes so it was worth it to me to get the ATV.
 

Macalicious2011

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I have ordered a 65 inch XH95 that will arrive tomorrow.

I have read that the Netflix app is calibrated for the HDR on the TV.

Has anyone compared HDR performance of internal Sony apps vs ATV 4K?
 

perezr10

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I have ordered a 65 inch XH95 that will arrive tomorrow.

I have read that the Netflix app is calibrated for the HDR on the TV.

Has anyone compared HDR performance of internal Sony apps vs ATV 4K?
That’s a great point. To complicate your decision further. I think I read somewhere that Netflix displays on the Apple TV at a higher bitrate than it does anywhere else. Other services may as well.

I don’t understand how they’re doing it. It’s something along the lines of Apple somehow securing bandwidth priority from providers to allow for streaming at higher quality levels than anyone else.
 

MisterSavage

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I have ordered a 65 inch XH95 that will arrive tomorrow.

I have read that the Netflix app is calibrated for the HDR on the TV.

Has anyone compared HDR performance of internal Sony apps vs ATV 4K?

Another reason I'm "meh" on an Apple TV right now is I got a 4K Amazon Fire Stick for $25 that I was using for Netflix before I got my new Sony.
 

Macalicious2011

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That’s a great point. To complicate your decision further. I think I read somewhere that Netflix displays on the Apple TV at a higher bitrate than it does anywhere else. Other services may as well.

I don’t understand how they’re doing it. It’s something along the lines of Apple somehow securing bandwidth priority from providers to allow for streaming at higher quality levels than anyone else.
Interesting. What's the beer device for watching disney plus?

I have been saving the Mandolorian for a rainy day and will be keen to start watching it next week.

Another reason I'm "meh" on an Apple TV right now is I got a 4K Amazon Fire Stick for $25 that I was using for Netflix before I got my new Sony.
I really like ATV 4k. It's had zero issues and is a breeze for anyone to use.

The biggest reason why I am willing to give Android TV a shot is Google Assistant which remains galaxies ahead of Siri for searching youtube/youtube music.
 

joelfriedman

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Oct 4, 2011
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We have a new Sony TV on the way, it hasn't got a built in AppleTV app, but it does have AirPlay2.

How does AirPlay2 work for streaming, is it just sending an address to the TV and then the TV will play off of that. Will this be in 4K/Atmos etc, or does that depend on what you are sending from. Or does Airplay 2 not support this?

The TV should have a browser, is that a better option, is 4K/Atmos etc available through the browser?

Thanks

ajo
Hi, jumping on the bandwagon here. We are looking specifically at the Sony 49" Class X950H Series LED 4K UHD Smart Android TV. I don't see *specific* mention about whether it would work with ATV, as far as I can tell. I'm thinking this might just be a question of our Yamaha amp and universal remote - selecting the correct HDMI port for ATV vs the one for Sony Android TV, or if we wanted to use the DVD player, or... - so maybe there are no worries? Sorry, not my area of expertise at all, but are the questions here are more about whether Sony's Android *software* will work with Apple TVs *software* app? Using a hardware device (ATV) plugged into the proper port on an amp wouldn't be messed up by this new Sony, correct? Wanting to find out if we can pull the trigger on this new TV tomorrow. :-0 Thanks for your patience. Best, Joel
 

Macalicious2011

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Hi, jumping on the bandwagon here. We are looking specifically at the Sony 49" Class X950H Series LED 4K UHD Smart Android TV. I don't see *specific* mention about whether it would work with ATV, as far as I can tell. I'm thinking this might just be a question of our Yamaha amp and universal remote - selecting the correct HDMI port for ATV vs the one for Sony Android TV, or if we wanted to use the DVD player, or... - so maybe there are no worries? Sorry, not my area of expertise at all, but are the questions here are more about whether Sony's Android *software* will work with Apple TVs *software* app? Using a hardware device (ATV) plugged into the proper port on an amp wouldn't be messed up by this new Sony, correct? Wanting to find out if we can pull the trigger on this new TV tomorrow. :-0 Thanks for your patience. Best, Joel
ATV works fine with Android based Sony TVs.

Check thar the one you want to buy supports eARC and has enough HDMI ports incase your receiver can't pass through 4k/60hz and HDR.
 
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MisterSavage

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Hi, jumping on the bandwagon here. We are looking specifically at the Sony 49" Class X950H Series LED 4K UHD Smart Android TV. I don't see *specific* mention about whether it would work with ATV, as far as I can tell. I'm thinking this might just be a question of our Yamaha amp and universal remote - selecting the correct HDMI port for ATV vs the one for Sony Android TV, or if we wanted to use the DVD player, or... - so maybe there are no worries? Sorry, not my area of expertise at all, but are the questions here are more about whether Sony's Android *software* will work with Apple TVs *software* app? Using a hardware device (ATV) plugged into the proper port on an amp wouldn't be messed up by this new Sony, correct? Wanting to find out if we can pull the trigger on this new TV tomorrow. :-0 Thanks for your patience. Best, Joel

Plugging a physical Apple TV unit into an HDMI port isn't going to be a problem for you.

He was asking about AirPlay2, which lets your Apple devices (iPhones, iPads, etc) stream wirelessly to your tv.

As for the Apple TV Plus *app* that you can install on a TV, up until recently the only Sony that had it was the X900H series, but that is changing.

 
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joelfriedman

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Plugging a physical Apple TV unit into an HDMI port isn't going to be a problem for you.

He was asking about AirPlay2, which lets your Apple devices (iPhones, iPads, etc) stream wirelessly to your tv.

As for the Apple TV Plus *app* that you can install on a TV, up until recently the only Sony that had it was the X900H series, but that is changing.

Yes, thank you. I knew the thread was on a different topic, but thought I'd piggyback. We had a good price for a Sony TV and did it. Just making sure.
 

MisterSavage

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Yes, thank you. I knew the thread was on a different topic, but thought I'd piggyback. We had a good price for a Sony TV and did it. Just making sure.
I just got an X900H and it's really great. Some minor glitches but otherwise very solid.
 

Topfry

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Yes, thank you. I knew the thread was on a different topic, but thought I'd piggyback. We had a good price for a Sony TV and did it. Just making sure.
Same here; been waiting for a full atv for years, but a great sony tv came up at good price, has the atv app and all the apps on my atv - to be honest theres very few things that the box has in advantage over the tv, and much more the tv has over the box (Not only that but its multi platform and not wslled in any way). I have always wanted to reduce the wires and peripherals under the tv, and this is way closer to what I would have hoped Apple would have made. Apple releasing the atv app last year was a sea change.
 
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