new SSD NVMe + pci adapter

[gnesper]

Hello.
I have a MacBook Air 13", 2013 (MacBookAir6,2) pn A1466.
The original SSD pcie 12+16pin is dead.
I bought new SSD NVMe KINGSTON kc2000 240gb with pci adapter 12+16 pin (https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B0788CKXJZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
When I try to reinstall macOS the utility disk doesn't see the new SSD (the SSD work fine into Windows PC with m.2 slot).
The MacBook Air seems to have the last EFI Boot ROM and SMC.
Can you help me to recognize the new ssd?

thank you

 

[Audit13]

You must use the disk utility from high Sierra or Mojave to partition and format the SSD.

 

[gnesper]

ok... I prepared usb mojave installer and with his disk utility now I Can see the NVMe SSD, but when I start the installer (always from usb) never finish and after few minutes restart to disk utility (from usb mojave installer).
I tried to format NVMe SSD like APFS, but in this case, when I try again to install mojave...the installation show me a message "the Mac firmware must be updated".
Can you help me?
Thanks

 

[Audit13]

The MacBook must be running the latest bootrom before installing the nvme drive.

You need to install an apple SSD, install the latest Mojave, install the nvme drive, and install high Sierra or Mojave.

 

[gnesper]

I bought new NVMe SSD because the original SSD is death.
So you're telling me that I have to buy an original SSD?
There isn't any way to force the mojave installer to Nvme SSD without buy original Ssd?

 

[Audit13]

The bootrom update gets installed when the OS is installed to the original SSD.

You can use an efi programmer or look for a repair shop that can flash it.

 

[gnesper]

Ok, suppose that now I buy original ssd for update boot rom and than I install mojave to nvme ssd.... In the future, If I will have to reinstall mojave into nvme ssd, will I always need the original ssd?
My idea was to buy original ssd and then when my work finished I would return it

 

[Audit13]

You would likely need the original to install bootrom updates although I'm not sure how many more updates there will be beyond Catalina.

 

[gnesper]

Will I need the original ssd if I want to restore a mojave backup from time machine in the future?

 

[Audit13]

Will I need the original ssd if I want to restore a mojave backup from time machine in the future?

Nope, you should be fine.

 

[gnesper]

The bootrom update gets installed when the OS is installed to the original SSD.

You can use an efi programmer or look for a repair shop that can flash it.

So now I can buy also the original ssd... But how can I choose the correct model to permit me to upgrade boot rom?
I want to buy a small ssd capacity...

 

[Audit13]

Drives for the mid-2013 to 2017 Air and late 2013 to 2015 Pro are interchangeable.

 

[gnesper]

So it is enough that I respect the interface standard (pcie ahci) and that it is not nvme. Quite right?

 

[Audit13]

Yes, the important thing is the physical interface.

 

[gnesper]

Perfect. Now I can try again to install mojave into ssd nvme m2 trought macos mojave patcher utility...
Thanks for now

 

[Audit13]

Perfect. Now I can try again to install mojave into ssd nvme m2 trought macos mojave patcher utility...
Thanks for now

Sorry, I should have been clearer in my post. I meant to say that you can use any original MacBook SSD to update the bootrom.

 

[gnesper]

Ok. But for be sure how I can search the right original ssd to buy?

 

[Audit13]

You want to get the Samsung ssuax or ssubx. The ssuax will be cheaper since it is pci-e 2.0 x 2 drive.

 

[gnesper]

If I buy this:
Transcend TS240GJDM820 JetDrive 850 SSD 240 GB per MacBook Air 11" & 13" (Metà 2013 - 2017), MacBook Pro Retina 13" & 15" (Fine 2013 - Metà 2015) https://www.amazon.it/dp/B075H9G1CH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_m9WADbJ6ZCTRD

With this I can install and update boot rom normally? Can he replace the original?

 

[Audit13]

I'm not 100% sure but I highly doubt any non-Apple SSD will accept a bootrom update. I would not take that chance.

 

[gnesper]

I'm not 100% sure but I highly doubt any non-Apple SSD will accept a bootrom update. I would not take that chance.

The original where I can buy?

 

[Audit13]

You can't buy replacements in Canada or the USA from the Apple store. You will have to look at eBay, Amazon, or a Mac repair shop. These drives probably won't have Apple warranty as far as I know.

 

[lowendlinux]

I have a couple I'll sell

 

[DJScratchy]

The original where I can buy?

I wonder why no one suggested to do a clean install of High Sierra or Mojave via USB??

Yes, there are no longer USB-prepared install packages of OS X to download from Apple.
But there are guidelines how to patch the regular packages to be run on an USB drive.

I would think those installation versions would be able to recognize your NVM drive for a fresh install... or at least initiate an update process for your hardware so finally it can ...

Anyway... If you already bought an original SSD drive, still you can sell it after setting up the new NVM drive.
But be shure to always have an USB medium prepared for the future, in case you are offline, cant remember your Apple-ID or whatever reason there might be.

(I really dislike Apple's move to bind users to their "online installation only" process via App Store. It gets overly complicated and thus its not a robust procedure anymore. Plus I just dont want to register my private computer at all, not even with faked personal data.)

 

[Audit13]

A MacBook Air or pro will not accept an EFI update without having an internal, original Apple SSD. There is also no way to update the EFI using software or usb method. The only exception I know of would be a 2015 Air or pro running the third or newer release of Mojave. Installing a fresh copy of High Sierra or Mojave may work but the EFI will not update.

The only way to update the EFI without the original SSD would be to use an EFI programmer.