New stupid software update is very RAM hungry and causing battery problems on Tab Pro

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  1. Billy95Tech, Nov 25, 2014
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    I just downloaded and installed the new software update(stability) 2 weeks ago on my Tab Pro 8.4.

    But since then i have been having big drops about 20%% in battery on stand by time over night plus clearing the RAM and boost the battery life with Battery Doctor.

    Before the software update over night it only dropped from 2 to 5% on stand by time Every time.
    This should NOT happen and i NEVER had this problem before the new software update.

    And the battery life does not last as long now. It use to last 7 hours on sceen time but now it only last 4/5 hours on sceen time. :(


    And i think the new software update is very RAM hungry because the RAM booster(Memory booster lite) does not boost the RAM as much no more now it is always under 15/18% with under 300MB free that is not alot of free RAM before the software update i use to have over 25/30% with over 600/800MB of RAM free and that is alot of free RAM left.

    Because of only under 300MB free out of 2GB of RAM since the Software update the apps/games are not loading up as quickly anymore and the home sceens keeps on reloading when i go out of a app sometimes and the web pages reloading more often Now.


    Does anyone having this problems that i am having since the new software update? Can anyone know how to fix the battery not losing about 20% on stand by time over night and how to get the RAM back to normal like over 25/30% with over 600MB/800MB free left?



    The good thing about the software update it has fixed the charging issue i had each time i charge the battery it always goes back up to 100% every time without stopping at 35, 78, 95%. :)


    WOW!!! And just by writing this for about 15/20 minutes the battery already lost nearly 15% from 40 to 26% That is just stupid, unbelievable!!!!!

    Why Samsung even released this very stupid RAM hungry Software update that causes major big drop downs on standby time on battery, this is ridiculous!!

    Really hope Samsung release another Software update to fix these stupid problems!

    How do i install the previous software update without doing a factory reset.


    Please tell me i am not the only one who is having these problems since the new software update..... :/
     
  2. Billy95Tech thread starter Suspended

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    UPDATE:

    Bad news!! The charging issue haven't been fixed after all because tonight i charged my Tab Pro 8.4 from 3% and it only got up to 95%. :(

    I thought the charging issue was FIXED turns outs it is NOT, I am disappointed in this And getting fed up about this!!!!

    If this don't get sorted then i might as well get the Ipad air 2 then because Ipads never have these problems and they are so more reliable than Android tablets........
     
  3. Billy95Tech, Nov 26, 2014
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    Another UPDATE:

    I left my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 on standby over night with boosting the RAM, closing apps and the battery life and turned off wifi, bluetooth, GPS, etc.

    And it lose 15% charge on standby over night from 100% to 85. this should not be happening
    I think it is the software update that is very RAM hungry that is affecting the battery life very badly :C

    Anyway i just hope when i send it back to Samsung they will fix the problems that i'm having or replace it with a new one.

    The bad thing if Samsung replace it with a new one i am going to lose all my games progress, i have got really got far into those games and i have nearly finished them.


    if they unable to fix it then i be ditching Samsung saying BYE BYE Samsung and HELLO Apple only for the Ipad air 2!
     
  4. DeltaMac, Nov 26, 2014
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    I think you have a good plan...
    There's the answer in your other thread on this issue
    Or, maybe your battery is dying...
    It's a sammy, so the batt must be simple to replace, right? Or is that just on their phones?
     
  5. mrex, Nov 26, 2014
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    You havent shown any screenshot of battery stats. It could show the possible issue. Same with ram usage. And sometimes few reboots may fix those issues too. But without screenshots of stats, we can only quess whats happening...

    If you cant find the problem, just do a factory reset (backup files you want to keep - it also erases game data!).
     
  6. Ccrew macrumors 68020

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    And then Apple will release a patch and the iPad will do the same thing. It's not like Apple is exempt from battery issues.

    Bite the bullet and factory reset it. It's usually NOT the OS, but an app that's not playing well. Have you looked at the power stats to see what's using all the power? This thread seems like a lot of whine and no real substance. Biggest worry is about game data? Are you like 14?
     
  7. Billy95Tech thread starter Suspended

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    Ok in the last week i did unistalled the RAM Booster(Memory Booster Lite) and kept the cleaner(Clean Master, CCleaner, Advanced Mobile Care) apps and installed a different Battery doctor/booster(DU Battery Saver).

    It seems now every night(especially last night) my Tab Pro 8.4 keeps on losing 20 to 30% charge on stand by over night after clearing all the RAM and boosting the battery life like last night it was charged fully to 100% left it on stand by over night and in the morning it lose 30% charge from 100 to 70% that is ridiculous.!

    And i think the charging issue it is working again it keeps going up to 100% everytime without getting stuck around anywhere(20%, 56%, 80%, 95%)

    The battery life is worse than ever before the software update i was getting 6/7 hours of sceen time and now i am only getting 3/4 hours the most on sceen time.

    The RAM issue is stil bad now without RAM Boosters i am still getting under free 200MB/400MB left now that means the web pages are reloading more often and the apps are keep reloading and games/apps opening up more slow.

    It seems the Clean Master ram booster showing incorrect(maybe) RAM usage because someone on another forum said go on settings-app manager-running and to check the RAM because it will be higher than it actually is and i checked the RAM usage in the settings and RAM was around free 500MB left and the Clean Master RAM booster says free 200/300MB left and the person was right.

    Ok why does it say the RAM is higher in the settings and the Clean Master RAM Booster/other RAM Boosters says it is only free 200MB/400MB left after i installed the new software update?


    I think because for the battery life losing alot of charge on stand by ridiculously and bad battery life(3/4 hours of sceen time) and the RAM issue.

    I am going to risk it for a biscuit and factory reset it and hopefully it will fix the issues i am having and get back to normal like it was before the software update.


    But i am not going to factory reset it just yet(in the next day or 2 i will) because i want to know what are your thoughts about this? What do you think? What would you do?
     
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    Sounds like a factory reset would help. Also you should look in settings at the battery stats. That should tell you what is using your battery overnight.
     
  9. Billy95Tech, Dec 19, 2014
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    How to find what is draining the battery life so fast and how to stop it? because in the last few days it has been losing over 20 to 40% over night with the wifi, bluetooth, GPS off and the RAM being cleared..

    For a couple days the battery life will be fine on standby over night only lose about 2 to 6% charge and then it happens again the battery will drain to 0% so fast or lose over 20 to 40% over night with the wifi, bluetooth, GPS and the RAM being cleared for a couple days and after it will only lose 2 to 6% over night of battery life on standby and then after the same thing(lose 20 to 40% of battery life on standby over night) will happen all over again for a couple days...

    If i don't find what is draining battery life so fast and fix it then i am going to bite the bullet for real this time and factory reset it and get it back to normal like it was before i installed the stupid and very RAM hungry software update.....


    Or should i wait till when(if ever) Samsung release another software update in the future or maybe wait for Android Lollipop to arrive on my Tab Pro 8.4 in the next year but i am not too sure i can wait for that long tho.........
     
  10. Billy95Tech, Dec 23, 2014
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    Installed GSam battery monitor(suggested on another forum) and for the 1st time in a couple days after i charged it to 100% last time then watched some videos after closed it(and force stop it on GSam Battery monitor) and it was around 95% and then i left it on standby overnight and it lose charge from 95% to 60%. With the wifi, bluetooth, GPS of and the RAM Being cleared.

    And this morning i checked the what apps are draining the battery overnight on GSam Battery monitor and there's was NO APPS that was draining the battery it was the android system was draining 62.2% out of 73% (the rest was Android media/ Google services)of the battery. :/

    I just found out i can't do anything about it as i can't force stop Android system, Google services more because some more things might even go wrong on my Tab Pro 8.4

    I am going say it again Samsung should of NOT released this stupid and very RAM software update.

    Am i the only one who has having these problems on my Tab Pro 8.4 since the software update?


    It seems factory resetting it is starting to be a good idea now and the ONLY OPTION to fix the RAM issues and battery life problems that i am having and to get it back to normal before the software update.......
     
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    Yeah sounds like you have a wakelock of some sort. I think in order to see system wakelocks you have to be rooted. In this case you may want to try a factory reset and see if that improves things.
     
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    I did factory reset on my Tab Pro 8.4 and reinstalled my apps/games and for the couple days it was fine no problems and the battery was draining only 2-6% on standby over night with the wifi, GPS of and RAM being cleared and the sceen brightness very low

    But the factory reset did not fix the stupid problems.

    I keep having RAM Issues(keep getting low memory warnings and the apps/games loading up not as fast and webpages keeps reloading more often) and the last 2 days my battery has been draining 20 to 40% again over night on standby with the wifi, GPS of and RAM being cleared and the sceen brightness very low.

    And this morning i checked on GSAM battery moniter and i saw that 67.0% battery consumed by Android system 54.0% and the rest was the google services and Android system(media) each of them consumed about 3 to 5% of my battery and there was about 2/4 apps was consuming 0.1 of the battery.

    I did take a sceen shot of it but i can't upload the image on here... :/



    This is just stupid and ridiculous i thought a factory reset would fix stupid problems that i am having and it did not fix it.

    I think the other option is to call up Amazon(i bought it from Amazon) and hopefully it will get it replaced!!
     
  13. mrex, Dec 31, 2014
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    New stupid software update is very RAM hungry and causing battery problems on...

    some app is keeping the system up... if you cant find it, try an app called Wakelock Detector from google play store. it should show the app causing this...

    and if you remember what apps you just installed when this start happening again you could try to uninstall those apps and find the app on that way...
     
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    I installed the wake lock detector on my Tab Pro 8.4 but i can't do anything with it because it says " Access Permission was changed in Kitkat, Now Advanced statistics need ROOT access :( "

    I don't really want to root my Tab Pro 8.4..
     
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    my gut is telling me you have some app that keeps pinging google play services over and over again keeping your device away. This makes it hard to detect what it causing it as the power drain is going from play services on battery monitor but not from the App that is really causing it.

    My guess is it is some game you installed or other freebee app. I can think of a few games that did that to my android devices and almost all of them were some cheap games that kept pining google play services. Issue is tracking them down as they do not appear as power drains in the monitor.
     
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    New stupid software update is very RAM hungry and causing battery problems on...

    oh wakelock detector needs root access nowadays.. too bad.. maybe you could check reviews of apps you have installed if anybode else is complaining battery draining...

    because your system worked after the factory reset, i dont think that there is a problem with the update, corrupted cache or any other similar thing. it is definitely one or more of apps you have installed and then launched. what would i do, i would do a factory reset again and without reinstalling apps. then you know if it is the system or apps causing it. after that if everything is fine, install only few apps and check what happens and so on.. probably the easiest way to find the app/apps causing that.
     
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    Ok But to be honest it might take ages to find what app is causing the problem if i do what yous 2 suggested.

    I would rather send back it to Samsung and get it replaced it will be quicker that way!
     
  18. mrex, Jan 1, 2015
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    New stupid software update is very RAM hungry and causing battery problems on...


    im not sure do you understand the issue. if it is not in os, you can replace the device as many times you want because one or more of your installed apps is causing this issue and it always comes back when you install that app(s) again.

    when you do a factory reset without reinstalling apps, you will see if it is in os itself or not. if the device is working similar way after the factory reset, then you can replace it. if you send it back and the problem is not in the device/os, you get the same device back and probably also need to pay shipping/handling or so..

    if it is working fine after the factory reset, then you know that the problem is caused by an app(s) and samsung cant do anything to it. it doesnt go away by replacing the device - and they do not if the problem is not in os/device itself.

    and if you call to samsung and ask them to replace the unit, they propably ask you to do a factory reset without reinstalling any apps and then calling back if the problem doesnt exit.
     
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    Problem is Samsung replacing the device it will happen again. Chance are you installed something causing it. Your backup with Google with just reinstall the offending app so no matter how many times you replace the device same issue over and over again.
     
  20. Billy95Tech, Jan 1, 2015
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    Maybe it is a app that is causing a big problem(major battery drain and ram issue) but most likely is not the case because before i installed the software update i had no problems on my Tab Pro 8.4(except the charging stopping at 23, 55, 78, 96% while it is charging the battery sometimes.) and the ram was good and the battery life was great(5/6+ hours of sceen time) and it was only losing 2-6% on standby overnight and i had the same apps that i installed that all of them was not draining the battery life ridiculously on standby overnight.

    And a factory reset did not fix the problems so it was most likely was the software update that caused the damage and somehow for some reason it is still causing problems even tho i did a factory reset my Tab Pro 8.4.

    And i have pretty much the SAME apps/games i have on my Tab Pro 8.4 before i installed the stupid software.



    So it is highly likely that the stupid very ram hungry software update that i installed that is still causing a problem and it not the apps as you lot think it is that is causing the problem!
     
  21. mrex, Jan 1, 2015
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    New stupid software update is very RAM hungry and causing battery problems on...

    i think you said earlier that after the reset it was working fine couple of days.. right? so it sounds like some app(s) is causing this behaviour and it started to happen again maybe when you launched that app/s...

    althought you have exactly the same apps before and after os updates it doesnt mean that all those apps will work with the latest update. you can blame samsung if you want but samsung cant do anything to apps they dont own...
     
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    Yes it was working fine after i did a factory reset.
     
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    Yep. Exchanging device won't solve the issue because it's an app that causing the problem.

    OP you installing apps 'only from the PlayStore'. ?
     
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    I am installing apps/games only from the Google Play Store, not from other 3rd party Android app stores.
     

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