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New Time Capsules Rather Than Apple's Servers to Act as Hub for iCloud Data Syncing?

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Cult of Mac reports that it has received information indicating that revamped versions of Apple's Time Capsule wireless router/hard drive combination will serve as the hub for iCloud data syncing, with data stored directly on the device rather than on Apple's servers.
Our source didn't have any information about the hardware, but detailed how the Home Folder access system works. Files saved on your computer are backed up instantly to Time Capsule, which makes them available to remote Macs and iOS devices.

If you make any changes on any computer, those changes are updated through iCloud and stored on your Time Capsule. The Time Capsule archives and serves up your files even when your computers are off. When you get home and fire up your desktop computer or laptop, the files are automatically synced across your devices.

This service will also allow you to upload photos and videos from your iPhone or iPad to your Time Capsule. The media will be stored on the device and be made available for other devices to sync. iCloud is the "conduit" through which everything moves, the source said.

"Your computer gets backed up to Time Capsule anyways," said the source. "Now it'll serve up your content when you want it, where you want it, right there on your iOS device."
The source reports that this implementation of a local iCloud is "fully baked" and ready for deployment in future versions of Mac OS X and iOS, although there has been no hint of the functionality in developer seeds of Mac OS X Lion seen thus far. It is also unclear how such a system would integrate with the iCloud music streaming service, as a number of reports in the mainstream media suggested more of a true cloud-based system for that aspect of things, with Apple able to scan users' iTunes libraries and simply provide streaming access to those tracks from any device connected to the user's iCloud.

As noted by MyService, Apple's idea of a local cloud network dates back twenty years, with Steve Jobs having detailed some of the advantages of such a setup during a Q&A session at WWDC in 1997. (Discussion begins at around 13:10 mark.)

Cult of Mac's claims harken back to a report from The Loop's Jim Dalrymple back in mid-February in which he claimed that cloud-based strategy for a revamped MobileMe would in fact be focused on streaming data from users' machines rather hosting it directly on Apple's servers. A local cloud stored on a Time Capsule device would seem to be a middle-of-the-road solution offering much of what Dalrymple proposed while avoiding the need to keep a source computer awake and running for the service to function.

We'll certainly be learning more about iCloud tomorrow as Steve Jobs takes the stage for the keynote at this year's Worldwide Developers Conference at 10:00 AM Pacific Time / 1:00 PM Eastern Time. MacRumors will be providing live coverage of the keynote via MacRumorsLive and Twitter.

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macography.net

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I think that Apple is going to introduce a public + private cloud. That is probably needed because of the limited broadband speeds that we still have and to increase the usability of the solutions Apple has in mind (think of OTA iOS updates etc.).
 
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VaatiKaiba

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Forgive me if I'm wrong and being silly, but why are new TCs needed for this? Couldn't this be implemented through a software update on older models?

And doesn't this sound more like 'Back to my Time Capsule' instead of iCloud?
 
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ckorhonen

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Great, it makes a lot of sense.

If my time machine was my primary document store, and also served up my music and video to Apple TVs then it addresses my primary desire which is not to have to leave my Mac on all the time.

I'd still expect this to be mirrored on Apples servers too - what if my time capsule hard drive dies? Perhaps the new time capsule will be marketed as an extra to the iCloud service? Not required but something that will make a material difference.
 
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Warbrain

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Forgive me if I'm wrong and being silly, but why are new TCs needed for this? Couldn't this be implemented through a software update on older models?

And doesn't this sound more like 'Back to my Time Capsule' instead of iCloud?

Sounds more like a Pogoplug.

I really hope it isn't this as it will be horribly disappointing.
 
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anti-microsoft

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I think that Apple is going to introduce a public + private cloud. That is probably needed because of the limited broadband speeds that we still have and to increase the usability of the solutions Apple has in mind (think of OTA iOS updates etc.). I wrote about this last Friday in case you are interested.

http://bit.ly/iB0fyW

Interesting article. Let's hope iCloud offers something along these lines.
 
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ckorhonen

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Forgive me if I'm wrong and being silly, but why are new TCs needed for this? Couldn't this be implemented through a software update on older models?

And doesn't this sound more like 'Back to my Time Capsule' instead of iCloud?

My suspicion, if the new time capsule software is iOS based, is that some of the older models may not have the required hardware to run it (CPU, memory, storage). I know they have an ARM chip inside of them, but I was under the impression it wasn't all that powerful.
 
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SB27

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Time Capsule

If they can nail down the security side of this, it could be very useful. We all own about 3-4 Mac/iOS devices. Why not have them work better together?
 
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Wurm5150

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FAIL! If iCloud requires everyone to buy Time Capsule for it to work..
 
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Warbrain

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FAIL! If iCloud requires everyone to buy Time Capsule for it to work..

Then adoption is going to be worse than MobileMe.

But it's not a surprise given how Apple has screwed up their Internet strategy many times before.
 
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Dcuellar

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I've really tried to stay positive about what will be introduced on Monday, but this will not work for me. I am not going to purchase ANOTHER Time Capsule in order to have that feature. The TC I have now already handles N and is 2TB so I won't be needing a new TC to improve in any of those areas.

The way I see it is Apple will have to do 1 of two things in order to get me to buy into this cloud strategy.
  1. Offer a Trade-In for TC owners.
  2. Make it so the older TC's can be updated to include this instead of new hardware having to be purchased.
 
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BayouTiger

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Sounds like I'll stick with Dropbox

Doesn't sound very useful with my <50k ADSL upload speed. Even Uverse is only 3mb upload.
 
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SeattleMoose

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I Like It....

A "local" cloud is much more appealing to me than having all my stuff "somewhere" available when all components "in the end to end path" from my ? to my Mac are having a "sunny day". Not to mention privacy issues....

That being said it will be interesting to see how "iCloud" evolves with Apple TV and iTunes content and "streaming".

Maybe tomorrow we'll have some answers.....
 
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WiiDSmoker

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I just want to be able to transfer movies/music/etc to my Apple TV or iPhone/iPad/iPod without the damn computer being on.
 
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aibo82

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Well done Apple!!!!!!

You have invented the NAS device!!!!!

Something them PC/mac Users have had for years, may I point you to a little company called http://www.synology.com

So how much is this new NAS capsule £300 with a £25 a year subscription?

Sinology is £150 and does far far more! And streams music is a web server,torrent downloader,CTV device,iTunes server and streams music to hifi's!

I love Apple products but this is a total Meh!!
 
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blindzero

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So this should serve everything you have not purchased in iTunes. I have always hated leaving my laptop on just to stream to the TV. Hope they make a firmware update for old capsules.

This would only be useful for in house though. Streaming from Time Capsule remotely would eat up 2 bandwidth limits. Your iOS device, and your home internet provider.

I set up a NAS last year and have gotten sick of how finnicky it is.
 
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cwoloszynski

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Finally a sensible cloud strategy. I don't want to depend on service providers always being there, but I like this approach. My data on my hardware with a service that augments it by making it easier to access. Brilliant.
 
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jhall527

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While it isn't as robust as this sounds, I can't see why would replace my Dropbox account. It's free and makes everything available on all of my devices instantly.
 
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stridemat

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The Time Capsule as your own personal server. It's been waiting to do this since it was introduced.
 
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Cougarcat

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If Apple wants something like this to take off, they need to price the hardware aggressively: low-end, bring-your-own HD version $99?
 
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one09jason

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I don't get it

I feel like this is a solution looking for a problem. Imagine being able to access your "stuff" from anywhere! Wow. You mean, the way I can when I carry a laptop - particularly a nice thin light one that Apple already makes?

Except, this would be slower.
 
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ivladster

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uh

I hope you can plug a hard drive to AirPort Extreme and have an iCloud too. Really don't want to buy another router just for this.
 
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