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New UI, Could It Be Any Worse?

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alakazzam said:
Why does making a button look like a button make it better? It's still a flat piece of glass that you're pushing on.
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Good question.

Because you need to know what on the flat piece of glass is touchable/actionable and what is not.

In iOS6, you always knew what was an actionable button and what was not, because the buttons had depth, they sure looked like pressable items and there was no confusion.

In iOS7, you're never sure - there are 2D buttons with solid color fills, 2D buttons with no fill but outlines, 2D buttons with no outlines, titled icons with shapes, and finally text in a different color. And, since app developers can make text any color they like, how can we be sure that the colored/highlighted word is a button or not? Why are some things shown as 2D buttons but others as colored text? Beats me.

Inconsistent as all get out.
 
Im the opposite

Umbrarian said:
New User Interface is like using VisiCalc on a vt100 before graphics were invented.

No more buttons, texture, depth, color, gradients, etc. I do not want what is essentially a text mode UI.

For example, calc app no longer has distinct buttons, but lines between numbers. Looks like an interface designed in 1978 on pdp-11.

i just got a VM. It is a giant screen of white. No longer do they use color, boxes, etc to mark areas of the screen.

I cannot find a single thing about the new UI I like. I cannot believe anyone thinks this UI is better.
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I think this new operating system is a great step up!! I've talked to tons of people already about the system and we all find it pretty hard to find anything to complain about.
 
Umbrarian said:
New User Interface is like using VisiCalc on a vt100 before graphics were invented.

No more buttons, texture, depth, color, gradients, etc. I do not want what is essentially a text mode UI.
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Well said.

Apple wants a fresh new design, great. But this whole oh-so-trendy flat minimalist thing is terrible. Lifeless, flat primary-color graphics and razor-thin stick-figure fonts that look like they're going to snap in two - just what we need on a small, handheld device where you need to maximize visibility.

And this BS about "clarity" and "stripping away unnecessary ornamentation" - so adding a parallax effect on the home screen and frosted-glass overlays are necessary?

Graphics processors today are powerful - they can render fantastic 3D effects with shading, mirroring and complex textures...only to have the OS and UI stripped down to 1980's VGA quality. Bravo!

People out there are trying to tout this as "modern UI improvement" but let's face it - there's nothing that makes it more usable or innovative; it's nothing more than fashion design, like bell-bottoms or skinny ties - those clothes weren't any more functional, they were just fashion trends. So stop trying to convince us that this is an improved design because it's not.
 
I don't think this is necessarily a problem with iOS 7. Flat design is a trend the entire industry is heading towards.
 
nefan65 said:
I know. It's comical when you read posts about how childish the iOS 7 icons look, etc. but green felt, shining buttons, and torn paper are professional...?

There are some legitimate posts about some folks experiences; battery, lag on older devices, etc. But most of the posts are personal, opinionated rants. The same thing happened with iOS 5 & 6. I recall that the Maps debacle of 2011 was the end for Apple. Yet here we are in 2013, the earth is still rotating, and Apple is still in business.
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Maps was last year.
 
I downgrade my iPhone and iPad at this moment down to 6.1.3 again, mainly because of the design. iOS7 ran fast and smooth, and i liked the new features...but i "really" use my phone to read messages, and i feel tortured now each time i do this on the new iOS.

I do not like these so called "flat designs", as they are empty and without deepnes, soul, nor beauty!

What mostly attracted me to want an iphone was the Design, when Google began to establish the new flat design, i really hated that. I was really lucky when i got my phone, and not much later i bought an ipad.

I personally have no need to upgrade, as anything i need and use runs properly on 6. Things like AirDrop are nonsense, as they still only work between iPhones, what is kinda freaky in 2013, where seperation between diffrent operating systems should have been overcome. The fingerprint thing, well, in my opinion fingerprints should only taken by criminals...

I wonder if Ivy or how the designer is called ever used a mobile phone for anything beyond than just watching it. If he ever had used one, he might have discovered, that a sms on 6 could be easily read, on 7 it is just a pain. Same with the calendar and others...

By the way, will there be a day when they teach safari to make Texts on webpages after double-tap readable as easy as on every android running the old fashioned 2.3 and beyond?
 
Blakeasd said:
I don't think this is necessarily a problem with iOS 7. Flat design is a trend the entire industry is heading towards.
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I can show you innumerable flat designs that look way better than iOS 7. Childish, amateur, and ugly are not intrinsic qualities of flat design.
 
Macalway said:
It's fine, but there are serious problems

It's not a matter of opinion that the notes app is terrible now, do to it's being really lame.

Calendars is so bad you would rather miss dates then look at it

Just the facts.

But whatever, it's doable as Apple IS Going to fix it once we threaten them
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But Notes syncs with Exchange now! :eek:

This is new for my company anyway. The last two things I hated about the switch from a BB were Notes not syncing and losing color coding for my calander items.

This is actually a good thing. (If only I could read the notes...)

FWIW
DLM
 
I also noticed that the sound quality of phone calls is much better on 6, than on the new 7.

Seems they made anything flat, design and sound. 6 was deeper in any aspect.
 
WeegieMac said:
I cannot go back to iOS 6 for day to day use having gotten used to 7 over the beta phase. 6 is so out of date by comparison.
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I've been using it since the beta as well... I'm pretty into technology and updates... I like new. But even I haven't looked at this update and said, "wow, I can't believe the design of this compared to something else". I just don't do that, I can't think a majority of the mass customers actually care about the design as much as they care about the functionality and reliability.
 
It's funny how all I herd over the last year was how out of date ios was, how apple lost it, android was moving up and doing more. Apple has to change, can't just have the same old thing again. When ios6 launched, is this it?Now apple makes a change and it's OMG how could you! It just makes me laugh. After 3 months of ios7 I could never go back!
 
nefan65 said:
Meh...his opinion. I've seen some of his "work", and I'm not too impressed. It's like one artist telling another artist his work sucks.
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Apple can do nothing wrong as far as you are concerned... Right? And artists telling other artists that their work sucks is an integral part of art... Well maybe not for Apple "artists"... They are immpecable...
 
Umbrarian said:
New User Interface is like using VisiCalc on a vt100 before graphics were invented.

No more buttons, texture, depth, color, gradients, etc. I do not want what is essentially a text mode UI.

For example, calc app no longer has distinct buttons, but lines between numbers. Looks like an interface designed in 1978 on pdp-11.

i just got a VM. It is a giant screen of white. No longer do they use color, boxes, etc to mark areas of the screen.

I cannot find a single thing about the new UI I like. I cannot believe anyone thinks this UI is better.
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If the old school terminals had text this nice would we have move to GUI at all?
 
iOS 7 manages to be elegant and playful at the same time. It's wonderful -- could NEVER go back.
 
glhiii said:
iOS 7 manages to be elegant and playful at the same time. It's wonderful -- could NEVER go back.
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Well, I did just go back to 6.1.3. iOS 7 is just plain ugly on my iPad Mini and evn though I have to reinstall some of my apps, I am doing the happy dance. There will be no new iDevices in this household ... For as long as our existing last.

Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder!
 
All I can say is this - you'll either like it or not. Those who don't like it initially might see it grow on them until they do (or might never end up liking it). Last night I texted an old coworker/friend to remember to update her phone (she had no clue an update was coming). I JUST texted her now asking what she thought and she said, "It's really cool. More color and fun rather than dry". I asked someone else who also had no idea of the update and he told me "it's really slick".

Obviously those are two positives. I'm sure the more people I ask I'll find some who think oppositely. Overall I'm sure we'll have polls of what people think of it.
 
I have been looking for a big update for iOS, but this was not it. I have always felt I knew how to operate iOS before I even turned it on, but now it seems like I have to think and look around for what I want.

I can't stand the transitions. Throughout the day, I would hit the wake button to look at the time and hit it again to put it asleep and back in my pocket. Now it takes longer as when you push the button it fades in. The lack of buttons is just confusing. I actually spent a minute or two looking for an option. It was right in front of me, but I thought it was just text and not a button.

I would have to say that this is the first iOS upgrade I have been disappointed in and am considering downgrading. I also was considering getting the new iPhone 5s, but not sure anymore. Of course after have iOS for years now and spent money on iOS only apps, I feel stuck because I don't want to have to buy all those apps again.

I have heard family members say that it looks awful and this is the first time they have seen iOS 7.

I predict that by iOS 9, we will see Apple execs on stage making fun of the 'flat design' just like they made fun of the green felt.
 
Umbrarian said:
New User Interface is like using VisiCalc on a vt100 before graphics were invented.

No more buttons, texture, depth, color, gradients, etc. I do not want what is essentially a text mode UI.

For example, calc app no longer has distinct buttons, but lines between numbers. Looks like an interface designed in 1978 on pdp-11.

i just got a VM. It is a giant screen of white. No longer do they use color, boxes, etc to mark areas of the screen.

I cannot find a single thing about the new UI I like. I cannot believe anyone thinks this UI is better.
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Ah the PDP-11. I remember it well.

If this flat, texture less UI movement catches on pretty soon we can ditch GPUs and go back to 80x25 ASCII art.

Personally I think iOS 7 is perfect for...... The iphone 5c. It's incongruous with something like the 5s or even the 4s though. If anything iOS 7 seems like a copy of Samsung's cartoonish TouchWiz UI.
 
Having used 7 since the first beta, many of these comments reflect my first impressions, and i'm sure others as well. I remember immediately thinking I would downgrade to 6. I'd say it took, maybe 2 days using the new UI and suddenly ios 6 on my ipad felt old, dated, much less useful, and not nearly as pleasing to the eye.

I love iOS 7 now, sure there are things that need tweaked, it's a 1.0 release, but overall, I again look forward to picking my phone up. It's fresh, and many of the new features make it much more efficient and productive.

Two weeks from now, many of you will be singing a different tune, guarantee it. And it probably won't take that long.
 
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