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It can happen on any ... but I think only Safari has this stupid option to automatically open 'safe' attachments (which by now everybody should have turned off)

What do you have turn off in preferences? Like I said I only used chrome, so I haven't really checked the safari preferences in a while.
 
This is looking more and more like a MS smear campaign, maybe they're even paying people to write this malware.

Why is it always the MS shill (Ed Bott) reporting this on his "Ed Bott's Microsoft Report" regular articles on ZD Net?

Shouldn't he be, well, reporting on Microsoft instead?
 
This is no longer talking about security though, but stability. The whole registry discussion is off-topic here...

i'm not sure how you made that distinction. the "single point of failure" is not just an issue of stability (ie something gets corrupt on your hard drive where the registry is located) but also security (malware attacks). i'm not sure how true this is anymore, but a piece of malware, for example, could inject bad registry keys to get windows update to go to a remote 3rd party server. the point is that because the registry is so central, successful malware damage has further-ranging implications than if your system settings were scattered across an /etc folder under an admin lock.

EDIT: that being said, MS has made a lot of moves to shore up the registry, but it remains one of several key chinks in their security armor.
 
I'm amazed people are still stupid enough to manually download and run this considering all the press coverage it has received.
Oooh. Where can I get a copy of Mac Defender? :rolleyes:

LOL! Funny.... looks like the crooks are hard at work to stir the pot on the Mac side.
Lodsys, Samsung (or whomever), give us a break.

Yeah... they could force all installs to go through the App store... but do you really want that?
If that's what it takes.

Apple -- permanently disable auto-open in safari... Duh.
Didn't know that.
 
Super. Obviously true. Still not sure how that shows Microsoft is currently doing more to prevent MacDefender type attacks then Apple.

The way you worded your initial post didn't make it sound like you did.

A full a/v solution in the form of Security Essentials is a good deal more than Apple is doing.
 
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Amen!
 
My mom, like most of the older generation, is not aware of stuff like this and this morning actually pointed out to me that on her mac something called mdinstaller popped up and tried to install it, I think she installed it because she didn't realize what it was. I was unsure whether or not it was the mac defender virus (now I'm aware it is though). I made her update her computer last night so she already has the new update, does this mean it will automatically remove the software for her or does she have to do something to get it to uninstall.

If she has the security update, it should eventually download a definition update and remove the thing for her. I am not sure how exactly what this will look like to her, it may be totally transparent to the user.
 
I didnt mean files, I had .ini files on the brain when I was writing that. As someone who hasn't been hit by Malware since 1998, for me, the benefits of a Registry outweigh the negatives.

i would have the exact reverse outlook. used to have to deal with antiviruses a lot, etc moved to *nix systems (incl os x) and not having a registry is way way preferable.

part of that might be because windows didn't have a security model for system .ini's back in the day, so i can understand in that context why a registry (which has controlled system calls iirc) may be preferable to having 1000 windows .ini files that any program could edit. but in that case, that's a bandaid on a bigger problem (which MS has moved away from by, ironically, adopting *nix style access controls) and *not* a sign of security.
 
LOL!

I've always wondered is the Virus protection companies aren't the ones that hire suspect engineers from places like Russia to keep the need for them rolling. Wouldn't be too surprising if it was true.

That has been rumored for many years. I remember when VirusScan was at version 60 or something in the early 90s and was told of the 500 or so viruses it scanned for that over 400 were written in Eastern Europe by the virus software people to justify the app.
 
What do you have turn off in preferences? Like I said I only used chrome, so I haven't really checked the safari preferences in a while.

If you are using only Chrome, there is nothing you really need to do. I still would recommend turning it off in Safari (e.g. in case someone else uses your machine and prefers Safari)
1. start safari
2. open safari preferences (safari/preferneces menu)
3. in the general tab, uncheck the "Open "safe" files after downloading
4. enjoy
 
LOL!

I've always wondered is the Virus protection companies aren't the ones that hire suspect engineers from places like Russia to keep the need for them rolling. Wouldn't be too surprising if it was true.

That is more than likely the case, I, and many others, have believed this for years.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

do you also think that doctors go around infecting people with illnesses so that they can stay in business? firemen go around setting houses a fire?

Well in terms of doctors, when was the last time you had a doctor actually cure anything? They delay things like cancer and AIDS but they sure as hell don't cure it, no money in that.

As for firefighters, no I don't think so they are employed by the state and get's paid regardless of fires.
 
:popcorn: LOVE watching all the slap-fighting & virtual muscling-up that happens in these threads. :D
 
>he thinks infecting people is equal to infecting computers.

I can't hahaohwow hard enough sir.

thanks, i'm here all night.

seriously though, are they not teaching metaphor in schools these days? let me be more literal: just because the incentive may exist does not mean that the reality is there.
 
If you are using only Chrome, there is nothing you really need to do. I still would recommend turning it off in Safari (e.g. in case someone else uses your machine and prefers Safari)
1. start safari
2. open safari preferences (safari/preferneces menu)
3. in the general tab, uncheck the "Open "safe" files after downloading
4. enjoy

Thanks I rarely use safari at all but I have to other people that use my imac every now and then. My mom uses mozilla and my gf likes to use safari but I told her about this macdefender malware so she isn't completely clueless about it.
 
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zmonster said:
Apple -- permanently disable auto-open in safari... Duh.

Safari 6? It's just around the corner...
 
The writers of these things are attention whores. Seeing the lengths that Apple is going to stop one malware threat (and it's variants), there are likely several other attacks being planned. The parallels between Microsoft if the early 00's and Apple today is stunning.
 
Well in terms of doctors, when was the last time you had a doctor actually cure anything? They delay things like cancer and AIDS but they sure as hell don't cure it, no money in that.

As for firefighters, no I don't think so they are employed by the state and get's paid regardless of fires.

i know i shouldn't feed the troll, but, there are plenty of flaws in what you just said (ie you think tax payers would keep funding firefighters ie employ them by the state if they didn't think they were getting their money's worth? there are jurisdictions that have ditched their formal fire departments; what about surgeons? do you honestly think that surgery accomplishes nothing?).

more to the point, see my other post. just because you can imagine that the incentive system exists does not produce reality.
 
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