Look I'm on the right IRC channels, I go to the right conferences, I know what's going on.
If you prefer to be blind to reality be my guest.
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New Variant of 'Mac Defender' Quickly Evades Apple's Security Update as Cat-and-Mouse Game Begins
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Look I'm on the right IRC channels, I go to the right conferences, I know what's going on.
If you prefer to be blind to reality be my guest.
eh, i'll grant you that. i'm too lazy to come up with somethign particularly clever.
i'm sure apple is using some kind of virus signature. this is now getting into vague territory for me, but i'm pretty sure you can't just rename some function calls (which probably get scrambled anyway when you compile code) and hope to evade anti-malware, or else we'd still have the same viruses from the 80's running amonk.
I'm surprised at the amount of people that are still saying people are dumb for downloading and opening this file. If you knew anything about it, out downloads and opens automatically under default settings.
Next, I hate how people, instead of placing the blame on Apple for using such idiotic settings and somehow not being able to fix the issue AT ALL, try to say Microsoft is worse. If you knew anything about Microsoft you would know how serious they are with malware.
Video of how Microsoft handles security in IE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YoefS-Mv8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMZ0F0HNGGM
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Next, I hate how people, instead of placing the blame on Apple for using such idiotic settings and somehow not being able to fix the issue AT ALL, try to say Microsoft is worse. If you knew anything about Microsoft you would know how serious they are with malware.
Video of how Microsoft handles security in IE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YoefS-Mv8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMZ0F0HNGGM
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TV, TV ... TV, ... hmmm, I think I heard that name before - I think that was a big ugly box in our living room while I was a kid, almost like a computer, but it was missing the keyboard, just a monitor.
You don't have to be smart or a genius to practice safe downloading. People just operate their computer blindly.
Don't get me wrong; I could totally see my parents downloading something like this, too. Same way they get all kinds of toolbars.
Doesn't mean I don't find it incomprehensible that they do it.
The App Store is a wonderful thing in that it gives people a safe way to grab apps.
Is this the beginning of the end for the Mac's malware protection?
What makes you think that? Stuff like that didn't stop the attempt of malware protection on windows.
You would think that these corporations would be smart enough to HIRE the hackers so this **** doesn't happen. Yes, there are ALWAYS ways around security, but if the guys who were making the malware were making the protection, it would be a better situation in my opinion.
Is this the beginning of the end for the Mac's malware protection?
The malware protection has just begun.
Exactly -- nobody can get in front of trojans. The only defense against a trojan is to get a hold of it, get a binary signature from the file, and update your malware detection to look for it and prevent downloading it.
One preventative defense is to turn off the "automatically run 'safe' files" option in Safari. Apple should be doing that by default and remove the option to turn it back on.
The other preventative defense is to make downloading apps off the internet a power-user option and make the default force you through the app store.
do they read news?
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-25/....ars_1_malware-applecare-mac-users?_s=PM:TECH
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/te...aypal-mac-defender-computer/story?id=13691222
if you want I can post many more links for more traditional news outlets reporting about this.
Even our local newspaper had a report about it.
i hardly know anyone who doesn't work or deal with the tech industry who bothers to read the tech sections of news. heck, i'd wager that even a lot of younger people get their news from the daily show or from whatever's on when they're at the gym.
i bolded the big part of your statement and i feel like keeps getting missed here. malware of the user-engineered variety is going to be easily prevalent on ANY system. the key crux is that apple happens to have a setting that turns user-initiated into automated, which is definitely something that has to be adjusted for most users if people are really so silly as to let a random program automatically download and install.
or put another way, what if i convinced a lot of mac users to open up their terminal to run "sudo rm -rf /" ? would i suddenly have proved that macs are an insecure system? no way. a secure system is only as secure as its user.
Apple should stick to their original strategy of having Geniuses deny that there is a problem and refuse to fix anything. What's the worst that can happen? Fanboiz tossing their perfectly made and invulnerable Macs for PCs?
Yeah, that's going to happen.
Yeah, that's going to happen.
Total control might sound good to you. Me?... Not so much.
I actually find this entertaining. Seeing as though Apple has put their Mac line and OSX in the back seat. I feel its high time for a reality check.
News flash Apple, you still sell computers in a competitive market.
I'm just waiting for someone to complain that Apple is "restricting them" from installing software that they want...even if it's Malware.
Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.80 (iPhone; Opera Mini/6.13548/24.871; U; en) Presto/2.5.25 Version/10.54)
Not gonna happen.
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Not gonna happen.
No. It wouldn't be a disaster. If would only be a disaster if after popping up, you clicked install. it still relies on a user to do something stupid. Click cancel on the installer and all is well.
Some might see this as an indicator that the next Mac OS X version will be "closed"
EDIT: missed that one a couple of posts above: ... (what a joke)
Bet it happens next week with Lion. Lion will ship with the Mac App Store as the only way to install software by default. it will have an option to install any software. I bet that option is called "Allow untrusted software to be installed" or something scary sounding like that.
it doesn't take a genius to NOT type in their password and install something.