Yeah, at this point all CarPlay vehicles should offer a wireless option. Just get into your vehicle and play your music/use your apps without plugging anything in, unless you’re charging.
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New Vehicle Owners Largely Satisfied With Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
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Duh!
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And another Duh
...it is stripping your experience to Apple only, with the exception of Spotify, if I am not forgetting another one.
Just reading through this thread, so you've probably already been corrected on this (and I just haven't read that far), but Spotify is definitely not the only third party Carplay app. There are numerous radio station apps which work, and of course there's Pandora, Amazon Music, Google Play Music, Slacker, Sirius XM, Tunein Radio, Vox, Clammr... not to mention a whole host of podcast apps such as Castro (my fave), Downcast, Pocket Casts, Stitcher. For Audiobooks, there is an Audiobooks app, plus Audible. Even WhatsApp has a CP application.
So no, Spotify is not the only third party app.
... another "duh"?
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Not sure how your iPod integration works, so I can't compare... but as for how CP works in my Mini, I listen to audiobooks or podcasts or music... I have on-screen controls easily accessible for basic functions such as as "rewind", "forward", "pause" and "stop" - not to mention on-screen controls to return to a menu to select another book (or podcast). I can also easily access the CP "home" screen with a button push, to select another app.
If a call comes in, I can answer (or not) through the on-screen interface, I can mute the call, hang up, make other calls, access my address book, etc. Calls interrupt the app in-progress, but I can ignore it.
Even iMessages pop up on my screen, to which I can reply via voice (or again, I can choose to ignore).
If your iPod does all that via a car head unit (and supporting a 7" display), that's impressive! I'd stick with that for sure.
(note that I'm not trying to be sarcastic with that last sentence, I honestly don't know how well the iPod interface works with the Accord head unit. Honda does some cool things, it could be great)
I'm just curious... what's your use case for Siri which would be a good example of "dumb" and "incompetent"? All I do with Siri and CP is to tell her to call so and so (works fine) or what to say in a reply to a message (also works fine). I don't challenge Siri very much, I guess - but what I do ask of Siri in CP works well.
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Yeah, I had to get the Mini with the "technology package". I'm glad I did, but I agree - it sure as heck is pricy!
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Carplay does not work with iPods. Period. iPods are not supported. CP is iPhone only.
My R8 and S5 both have carplay with not too many complaints, I just wish I could run Google maps vs Apple maps.
This has already been answered multiple times, and I wasn't really sure from my first experience with it. But I was reasonably reassured that it did not copy over my info after I used it, as many other Head unit OS phone interfaces do ...
Thanks for pointing that out. It wasn't immediately apparent to me. So, there's obviously some way to go into CP, presumably with your phone synched, and download the CP app for one used in the iPhone? Does that mean CP apps are limited by the storage built-into the head unit? Somehow I thought that CP was merely acting as a monitor for the iPhone, and limiting it to only Apple apps. Given that CP would theoretically let a person move around from car to car, setting up CP in the phone such that it would automatically allow access to the users designated CP configuration, regardless of which car they are driving would seem to be a huge bonus for using it. If I have to download CP apps on whatever unit I'm using each time I use it, makes it less likely that I will use it.
CarPlay is an external monitor for your apps. Nothing gets uploaded to the head unit. Everything runs on the phone. It's just that not every app is allowed to be projected to the head unit's screen. Also, those apps that are allowed to be projected change UI elements to conform to the specific CarPlay design requirements.
In short, you don't upload anything to the car's head unit - neither apps nor data.
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We'll, yeah. If your baseline is the native car's voice recognition, Siri on carplay is phenomenal. But, if your baseline is actually a smart AI assistant, Siri is plain dumb and incompetent. If you really want to know what navigation and AI assistant should be like in the car, try Android Auto.
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I'm a huge Apple fan, have been for most of my life but I bought an Android based system, NOT Android Auto but one that is basically a 10" tablet built into my cars dash. The main reason was cost, its less than half the cost of an Apple CarPlay based system but more than that it has so many more features and unlimited apps. It works well with my iPhone when it comes to BT and using it as a phone, only down side is no BT music and no Siri. But it has a proper built in Navigation software, not relying on Apple Maps, plus real time traffic when needed. Comes with 3 USB ports so I just load up some thumb drives for all the music I need. Support for rev camera, and a front bumper camera I installed.
When CarPlay offers more I might switch but until then I'm very happy with this system.
When CarPlay offers more I might switch but until then I'm very happy with this system.
I use CarPlay in my car but had the opportunity to see AA for a bit recently.
The interface for CarPlay is just daft.
While using maps, if you get a phone call or use Siri then entire screen changes. Hehe, just like the phone I guess.
With AA, if you use assistant it’s just a notification bar at the top.
Also AA handles multi music services better.
What I don’t like about CarPlay is he audio looking boring as hell and can barely see the blurred artwork. And it puts the album name and artist on one line so the majority of the time you see half of each because the middle is .........
It would be nice if it put a small bit of text on the maps of what your listening too, and use the sidebar better. It should put the speed limit there at all times or show what you’re listening to. Just be a bit more useful.
Besides that, it’s alright I guess. Siri is probably the dumbest in the car too, very restricted.
The interface for CarPlay is just daft.
While using maps, if you get a phone call or use Siri then entire screen changes. Hehe, just like the phone I guess.
With AA, if you use assistant it’s just a notification bar at the top.
Also AA handles multi music services better.
What I don’t like about CarPlay is he audio looking boring as hell and can barely see the blurred artwork. And it puts the album name and artist on one line so the majority of the time you see half of each because the middle is .........
It would be nice if it put a small bit of text on the maps of what your listening too, and use the sidebar better. It should put the speed limit there at all times or show what you’re listening to. Just be a bit more useful.
Besides that, it’s alright I guess. Siri is probably the dumbest in the car too, very restricted.
How could the hang up be with Apple? It's up to the car manufacturers to support wireless CarPlay or not, not Apple.
Tried CarPlay when buying a Porsche Macan. Fiddled with it at the dealership, looked low res and couldn't see enough value for a A$1000 extra.
Upgraded another car to VW Gold Alltrack with 9" media screen. It has CarPlay and Android. Yet to try again though as finding the builtin media apps work great. Whack in a couple of high capacity USBs and it's easy to have your whole music library on hand. Screen is fast and responsive. Navigation is quite good.
So what am I missing? Spotify app? If I want that I can just Bluetooth it over. Anything else?
Upgraded another car to VW Gold Alltrack with 9" media screen. It has CarPlay and Android. Yet to try again though as finding the builtin media apps work great. Whack in a couple of high capacity USBs and it's easy to have your whole music library on hand. Screen is fast and responsive. Navigation is quite good.
So what am I missing? Spotify app? If I want that I can just Bluetooth it over. Anything else?
I've been shopping around for a new 2018 Honda CRV.
I have been debating if Car Play is all I need or should I get the built in Garmin Navi?
I like the promise of Car Play and it beats driving down the road with my iPhone in my lap.
I have been debating if Car Play is all I need or should I get the built in Garmin Navi?
I like the promise of Car Play and it beats driving down the road with my iPhone in my lap.
Still sounds like an issue with your car radio. Does it have Android auto too, maybe you can have some one with an Android try and see if you have the same issues.
[doublepost=1523720726][/doublepost]I been using both in my 2016 Civic Touring for three years. Garmin is a better (but uglier) navigating tool IMO. But it resides in the head unit and, unlike CP, needs to be updated manually every year (I got five years free). If you don't update you risk driving off the road at, say, a redesigned highway intersection. You'd be surprised how many of them there are these days . . .
Garmin's update involves a thumb drive and a download and (they say) a fair amount of time with the car running. Can't confirm the last, because I've never gotten that far--the car recognizes the thumb drive but Garmin Express won't no matter how I format it. So I'm gradually starting to use CP more and more, especially on strange highways.
Garmin/Honda allege that a dealer will do an update for you, but I haven't found one who will yet (Boston area, please). Garmin really is better than CP though, and any advice y'all might offer on completing the Garmin update in a Civic would be greatly appreciated.
*UPDATE* Garmin support suggested that Garmin Express had a "higher success rate" with Honda if the USB stick was *exactly* 16 GB. Mine was 32 GB, and, so far, using a 16 GB stick has solved the problem. Can't think why . . .
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I have a 2017 Subaru Impreza that came with CarPlay/Android Auto, and I'm seriously considering getting an Android phone just to have Google Maps on the heads-up display. CarPlay is amazing for music and messages, but Apple Maps, particularly in the Bay Area, has nearly gotten me killed with it's last-minute, and sometimes delayed past the point of no return, navigation.Had an aftermarket CarPlay/Android Auto unit in my last car. Carplay was great for music and messages. Not much else.
Google still has the best maps app.
My current car did not get CarPlay or Android Auto. Honda decided to wait another year for us CR-V owners.
I got a refurb Moto G4 at Best Buy for $120 and keep it permanently in the car for Android Auto. I'm with T-Mobile, and they have a plan where you can pay $10 extra and have an extra phone with the same number and with data plan. It's definitely amazing with Google Maps and Google Assistant on the car's head unit.
Huh. So, carmakers have to implement WiFi into their headunits. Well, learn something new every day! I thought it was via BT.
Thanks!
Intetestingly enough, KIA has had Wi-Fi built in for several years now with the UVO system even before they introduced carplay / AA. You used to be able to use Google for the POI, but it would use its own navigation system to navigate to the POI. For that, UVO had to connect to the phone's hot spot. UVO also had built in apps that could use the Wi-Fi Hotspot for streaming music, etc. Nevertheless, UVO doesn't support wireless carplay. So, there must be more to wireless carplay than just carplay and Wi-Fi capability of the head unit.
Waze is simply a GPS map guidance machine. Nothing to get. But if you want something that can route you around a bottleneck from a recent accident I have not seen anything better. If you want something that is accurate about telling you when an active speed trap may be nearby I have not seen anything better. It only works if you are driving in a relatively populated area and Waze has already been adopted by an active group.
I have to wonder over the scientific legitimacy of this survey. It would seem that the comments here, though anecdotal, does not support the results of the survey. I hardly ever use CarPlay myself. Maybe if I could connect to it over bluetooth rather than needing to plug it in all of the time, I would be more willing to use it. But without that, I find just letting bluetooth handle my music and the car's built in Nav work just fine for me.
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I've tried all of the travel apps, Google, Apple Maps, Waze, and a couple others. At the end of the day, I've found that the Caltrans app and my own brain are the best at routing me around traffic. Better than any app out there.
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I've tried all of the travel apps, Google, Apple Maps, Waze, and a couple others. At the end of the day, I've found that the Caltrans app and my own brain are the best at routing me around traffic. Better than any app out there.
I love carplay, but I'd say I'm definitely in the 50/50 usage camp, though. Kia's UVO infotainment is actually very good.
I'd probably use Carplay 100% of time if it used bluetooth. The lack of wireless Carplay is definitely it's biggest weakness, especially since we are starting to see wireless charging pads in the higher trims of mainstreams cars now.
I don't bother hooking up my iPhone to use CarPlay unless I'm going on a decently long ride and/or need navigation. A trip to the grocery store? UVO works fine.
Speaking of Navigation - Apple, please add support for Google Maps and Waze. An easy close-2nd weakness with Carplay.
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Did not know this. I have a 2018 Kia Optima. I REALLY want wireless carplay.
I'd probably use Carplay 100% of time if it used bluetooth. The lack of wireless Carplay is definitely it's biggest weakness, especially since we are starting to see wireless charging pads in the higher trims of mainstreams cars now.
I don't bother hooking up my iPhone to use CarPlay unless I'm going on a decently long ride and/or need navigation. A trip to the grocery store? UVO works fine.
Speaking of Navigation - Apple, please add support for Google Maps and Waze. An easy close-2nd weakness with Carplay.
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Did not know this. I have a 2018 Kia Optima. I REALLY want wireless carplay.
I just don’t get the hype. I tried all the bells and whistles, and wasn’t helpful at all. My old Garmin did a way better job getting me though some rough areas.
Apple Maps is still primitive unless you live in a rural area with nothing to display.
https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat
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